zoid 24 Posted September 10, 2012 Correct, and I would prefer it lock back on last round. For what ever it's worth all of my magazines are lock back on last round but a person could buy them without that feature. I'm not worried about an occasional dry fire, and even if it did happen (as you suggest) there would be a spent round in the chamber that could absorb some of the action, right?. Does Kimber recommend dry firing their practice kit? All I see on their website is that they say its safe to dry fire centerfire. From Kimbers website.... Can I dry-fire my pistol? It is safe to dry-fire our centerfire pistols I believe (if the 522 operates like my Kimber kit) when you fire the last round that casing will be extracted, the bolt will go forward, and it will be ready to fire again with nothing in the chamber. Where do you get the hold open mags? Are they a lot more expensive? As for what Kimber says it is in the user manual that it is OK to dry fire the unit. I guess they don't list it on the site though I've never checked. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kingsoverqueens 10 Posted September 10, 2012 You are correct. I didn't think it through. The last shell ejects when fired. The gun came with one factory magazine and I got 4 others from Black dog. They are listed as 15 rounders but in actuality only hold 14 due to the lock back on last round feature. http://blackdogmachi...d-magazine.aspx If the user manual says it's OK to dry fire the Kimber then I would go with that. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
zoid 24 Posted September 10, 2012 Wow, 10 bucks each/14 rounds and solves the last shot hold open problem. Nice! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sonnylee 20 Posted September 10, 2012 I don't. Sig's website does not advise dry fire, and from what I'm told (forums & other owners) dry firing .22's is a bad idea. Not sure how to answer the question on the trigger. It's pictured above. I never paid attention to the pull. So what do you do to clear the rifle and the end of a stage? RO always requests you to hammer down or dry fire. Both M&P and Sigs are not supposed to be dry fired according to manufacture manual. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
zoid 24 Posted September 10, 2012 I think in some cases RO's will let you bag the gun if you explain it's a rimfire so long as they can see chamber is empty. Maybe require a chamber flag as well. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
PeteF 1,044 Posted September 10, 2012 Not sure about rifles, but I've had no trouble showing clear, put safety on and then bagging with a 22 pistol. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SW9racer 262 Posted September 10, 2012 Ruger said yes. Smith & Wesson no. http://www.smith-wesson.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/Category4_750001_750051_757815_-1_757814_757812_image#2 Kimber says only centerfire. Beretta does not recommend it and recommends a snap cap. http://berettausa.custhelp.com/app/answers/detail/a_id/86/kw/dry%20fire All of these links are inconclusive. On the S&W site it does not mention the 15-22, on the Beretta site it says "may". The instructions in my Kimber kit states you can. This was an important feature to me, as I dont cringe if they do get dry fired. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kingsoverqueens 10 Posted September 11, 2012 So what do you do to clear the rifle and the end of a stage? I've only used it once under the supervision of an R/O in a Steel Plate event. I told the R/O at each stage that it was a rim fire and I preferred not to dry fire. I activated safe, ejected the magazine, cleared the gun and manually held back the bolt to show the chamber clear. Then I locked it in place (open) with the hold button and crated the gun. All 5 or 6 R/O's were comfortable with the proceedure. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kingsoverqueens 10 Posted September 11, 2012 This was an important feature to me, as I dont cringe if they do get dry fired. I just checked the Sig owners manual and it makes no reference to dry fire at all. While at it I checked the manual for my practice kit for my Beretta 92FS as well as the manual for the 92 itself. No reference whatsoever to dry fire. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kingsoverqueens 10 Posted September 11, 2012 All of these links are inconclusive. On the S&W site it does not mention the 15-22, I just glanced over the owners manual for the 15/22 and only notice reference to "never dry fire while unassembled." Pg 21 of the manual. I don't know if that means you're ok to dry fire while its assumbled. I didn't notice any reference in the FAQ to rimfire rifles...just pistols as provided above. http://www.smith-wesson.com/wcsstore/SmWesson2/upload/other/S&W_M&P_1522_Manual_08-30-2010.pdf Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SW9racer 262 Posted September 11, 2012 Yes, because when unassembled there is nothing for the hammer to hit, except parts its not supposed to hit! All my 22lr have been dry fired tens upon tens of times, perhaps even low on the 100's, and never a problem. I am not advocating this, but I try to buy things that I dont have to baby, or take extra special care else it breaks. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rtquig 45 Posted September 11, 2012 That's funny I was told the opposite about the selectivity of ammo.. Most of M&P owner I asked said that it cycled any kind of ammo. Were as the 522 owner said that it was a little finicky of ammo selection.. I am probably going to buy the sig anyway.. I can't wait! The owners manual with the M&P tells you which ammo to use and which to stay away from. I pretty much use CCI and Bulk Federal and have given away all my Remington. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sonnylee 20 Posted September 12, 2012 So I decide to go with the M&P 15-22 and so far shot 250 round without a hiccup. Fun shooting rifle, it will take some getting used to switching over from a 10/22.. I'm still considering the 522 Sig later on for my Christmas present!! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sivl32 27 Posted November 29, 2012 Just got the sig 522 swat last week or so and man do I love it.. The front sight is really high even with the rear at its highest point still shoots just below. But I'm loving it. I also own the gsg522 which is just ok. Idk y but I never fell in love with it. But still chose these 2 over the mp-22 cause i didnt like the way it felt. Now I would just love to get the big brother in 556 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
KramD52 0 Posted November 29, 2012 Hmmmm, just picked up a gsg522 yesterday for my kids for Christmas. After seeing it in person, I was thinking "they are going to have to fight me for a chance to shoot it" LOL. j/k. Now, with what you guys are saying about the Sig I think I just may have to add one of these to my growing collection. What do the Sig 522's retail for? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
PeteF 1,044 Posted November 30, 2012 Hmmmm, just picked up a gsg522 yesterday for my kids for Christmas. After seeing it in person, I was thinking "they are going to have to fight me for a chance to shoot it" LOL. j/k. Now, with what you guys are saying about the Sig I think I just may have to add one of these to my growing collection. What do the Sig 522's retail for? There seems to be a big spread. A few months ago I got mine for 500, but have seen them for as much as 725. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
KramD52 0 Posted December 1, 2012 There seems to be a big spread. A few months ago I got mine for 500, but have seen them for as much as 725. Thank you for the info Pete. $500 is palatable but $725? Yikes Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kingsoverqueens 10 Posted December 2, 2012 I want to say I paid 6 and change over the summer. It's a great gun....very fun to shoot. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The_Matrix 105 Posted December 3, 2012 I find most of the 22lr AR style rifles to be cheap in quality. But, the sig 522 really impress me. Its quite beefy. I like the weight and quality. Thinking of getting one in Spring 2013. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hitdog18 0 Posted December 5, 2012 Cheyenne mountain had 3 on Saturday $620 for new Swat version $600 for used Swat. They had the classic but couldn't see the price tag. They are overpriced in Nj. Wallyworld in PA sells the Nj compliant for around $475. I'll be looking for that after Xmas sale. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jkroye 0 Posted December 18, 2012 How is the Sig 522 legal in NJ? I thought folding stocks were illegal. Is this a special NJ compliant version? The Sig website doesn't show a compliant version of the 522. Anyone know where to get one near Flemington? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mp123 0 Posted December 19, 2012 I have one. Had to wait for them to make a NJ Compliant. I think it took 4 weeks. Try Ramsey Outdoors in Ramsey. Got it really cheap before everyone found out about it. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jkroye 0 Posted December 20, 2012 Ok, thanks, I'll check them out. Did you have to special order yours? Is the stock pinned? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
PeteF 1,044 Posted December 20, 2012 The NJ legal version has a pinned stock and nothing on the end of the barrel. It's manufactured that way, with a special PN from Sig. I think this is it: R22SCMN18BC10M Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jkroye 0 Posted December 21, 2012 Great, thanks for the info. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites