Man stabs woman 12 times in Middletown bed bath and beyond

[RUTGERS95 890]

Man, my wife shops at that store.

 

my wife almost went there at 3:30! unreal

[MB24 37]

the judge that let him go from the cat issue should be held accountable.

[Black Ops 1]

the judge that let him go from the cat issue should be held accountable.

Exactly - the judge should have ordered a psychiatric evaluation to determine whether he should have been committed before considering his release.

[KpdPipes 388]

After torturing the cat, this guy should have been arrested and brought to a psychiatric emergency room for evaluation and hopefully committed. It is well known to mental health professionals that this kind of animal abuse may be a prelude to homicidal behavior.

 

He was arrested..and released on Bail..as far as getting him committed..you have NO Idea how difficult that is...when the state gutted the mental health system 20-odd years ago they made stuff like this inevitable. Simple fact is that until the commit a crime serious enough to get put away, they go right back out no matter how crazy they are.

[KpdPipes 388]

my wife almost went there at 3:30! unreal

 

Same here, if mine hadnt decided she wanted dinner from texas Roadhouse, we would have been in B&B buying coffee for our Keurig at that time...now im sorry we werent.

[Black Ops 1]

He was arrested..and released on Bail..as far as getting him committed..you have NO Idea how difficult that is...when the state gutted the mental health system 20-odd years ago they made stuff like this inevitable. Simple fact is that until the commit a crime serious enough to get put away, they go right back out no matter how crazy they are.

 

This is what the liberal media should be screaming about - not taking guns away from sane, responsible citizens.

[myosys 0]

He was arrested..and released on Bail..as far as getting him committed..y

 

That is crazy that he made bail. So if he goes apesh!t again and this time succeeds into puncturing someone's aorta, the judge should be strung up by his balls for ever granting that human piece of garbage bail.

[KpdPipes 388]

That is crazy that he made bail. So if he goes apesh!t again and this time succeeds into puncturing someone's aorta, the judge should be strung up by his balls for ever granting that human piece of garbage bail.

 

Damn that Constitution...huh????

[Bob2222 317]

http://www.app.com/a...iddletown-store

 

he Monmouth County Prosecutor’s Office reported that the 29-year-old Keansburg woman had been in critical but stable condition in a local hospital after suffering multiple stab wounds. Rob Cavanaugh, a spokesman for Jersey Shore, confirmed the victim’s identity as Kerri Dalton and said as of late Friday afternoon, her condition had been upgraded to good.

 

 

Haynes, who turns 19 in April, showed no emotion as he appeared before state Superior Court Judge Thomas F. Scully, who informed him he is charged with attempted murder, child endangerment, possession of a weapon for an unlawful purpose and unlawful possession of a weapon.

 

Assistant Monmouth County Prosecutor Christopher Decker asked that Haynes’ bail remain at $1,050,000. Scully obliged, citing the seriousness of the crime.

 

Family members said Kerri Dalton was at the store with her baby shopping for curtains Thursday around 4 p.m. when the attack occurred.

 

Haynes, who graduated from Middletown High School North, was held Friday at the Monmouth County Jail, Freehold Township.

 

Authorities said the defendant is the same man who is charged with torturing a cat to death Christmas Eve.

 

[GRIZ 3,369]

 

 

He was arrested..and released on Bail..as far as getting him committed..you have NO Idea how difficult that is...when the state gutted the mental health system 20-odd years ago they made stuff like this inevitable. Simple fact is that until the commit a crime serious enough to get put away, they go right back out no matter how crazy they are.

 

There were no animal cruelty laws under 2A when I left the police department in 1978. However, if we encountered a guy like this setting fire to a cat it could have been handled much differently. He would be taken to the ER, we would have told the doctor what he did, the doctor would talk to the guy, then commit him to Marlboro for evaluation.

 

If this system was still in place the judge could have done the same thing during his bail hearing. But it isn't.

 

 

 

That is crazy that he made bail. So if he goes apesh!t again and this time succeeds into puncturing someone's aorta, the judge should be strung up by his balls for ever granting that human piece of garbage bail.

 

Stringing the judge up for something that he has no control over is not a solution. As KpdPipes said, it is not easy to send someone away as it once was. Bail is set based on the crime, the defendants ties to the community, and other factors but the main reason is to ensure the defendant appears in court.

 

I wouldn't be so quick to blame the judge without more information.

[myosys 0]

Damn that Constitution...huh????

 

The Constitution has nothing to do with appropriate bail or in this case, holding him in a mental healthcare facility till someone finds out what we are dealing with here. Guys sets animals on fire, attempts to kill a random person, etc.... Go figure, huh????

 

You need to see someone up close that is criminally insane. I worked at John Hopkins hospital in the early 90's and it is terrifying. I didn't feel safe even with the Baltimore Police outside the door, and two orderlys with me when doing routine procedure.

[myosys 0]

I wouldn't be so quick to blame the judge without more information.

 

Well, I guess I'll accompany my wife and kids more on shopping trips, and have a blunt improvised melee weapon handy.

 

"Look at this new rolling pin."

[KpdPipes 388]

The Constitution has nothing to do with appropriate bail or in this case, holding him in a mental healthcare facility till someone finds out what we are dealing with here. Guys sets animals on fire, attempts to kill a random person, etc.... Go figure, huh????

 

You need to see someone up close that is criminally insane. I worked at John Hopkins hospital in the early 90's and it is terrifying. I didn't feel safe even with the Baltimore Police outside the door, and two orderlys with me when doing routine procedure.

 

25 years as a Cop..i have...

[GRIZ 3,369]

 

 

25 years as a Cop..i have...

 

More than once I'm sure.

[mipafox 438]

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18-year-old man was arrested tonight after stabbing a woman 12 times inside the Middletown Bed Bath and Beyond.

 

This man was apparently the same man that set a cat on fire inside of its carrier using an Aerosol can and a lighter on Christmas eve. He was arrested and later released.

 

What are we going to blame? The easy availability of knives aerosol cans and matches? Or are we finally going to start blaming our failed mental health system that allows someone like this to be out in the streets?

 

Let me get this straight.  Are you saying that we can put everybody away that has a mental health problem and put an end to people stabbing other people?  Or just everybody that sets cats on fire, whether they have a mental health issue or not?

 

You sound like the antigun people.  Any time something bad happens it's because the government is not controlling us enough.  If we could fix that it would be sprinkles and rainbows.  Oh yeah, murder and violent crime have been going down for 40 years on a moving average, but there is still a great deal to be done to give Obama the keys to oppress us.

 

You guys realize political opposition has been treated as a mental health issue by socialists, right?  That's on Page 1 of the playbook.  They remove your job and your rights, or commit you to asylum for life, or send you to camps.  Happened to tens of millions of people in the past 50 years.

 

DHS has been continuously reporting that people who promote the Constitution or firearms rights are potential terrorists and likely unstable for the past 5 years.  And, you asked for it, you got it.  Several of Obama's recent Executive Orders involve getting doctors involved with asking people about firearms ownership (which I have predicted for 3 years, and is against federal law), having AG Holder review the types of prohibited people and produce recommendations for expanding it, and having CDC study "gun violence" (as opposed to violence) as a national health issue, which is a violation of federal law.

 

You guys want to solve a problem that doesn't exist by enabling the government to continue to regulate us as potential terrorists and unbalanced for our political beliefs.  That is exactly what they have been doing here in the US for severl years, and you are cheering them to add some teeth to their political persecution.  

 

Tell me it will never happen just like you told me when I signed up here years ago.  It has.

 

There is no "gun violence problem" in our country.  It's about the lowest it ever has been.  Yet you guys are trying to assist these people in their increasing power grabs over the individual and violations of the Constitution.

 

You really shouldn't be looking to them to take more control over The People to solve any problem, real or hyped, at least until we stop them from constantly working to dominate us.  Whatever it is you want them to do for you, we got way more important crap to worry about right now, and it's coming from the people you are beckoning to answer your prayers.

[GRIZ 3,369]

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Let me get this straight.  Are you saying that we can put everybody away that has a mental health problem and put an end to people stabbing other people?  Or just everybody that sets cats on fire, whether they have a mental health issue or not?

 

No one is saying if we put away everyone with a mental health problem and put an end to people stabbing other people.

 

I think you'd be hard pressed to convince everyone that someone who sets cats on fire doesn't have a mental health problem. More than one mass murderer started out torturing and brutally killing animals.

[KpdPipes 388]

More than once I'm sure.

 

Are we talking the public or just Co-workers?????

[mipafox 438]

No one is saying if we put away everyone with a mental health problem and put an end to people stabbing other people.

 

I think you'd be hard pressed to convince everyone that someone who sets cats on fire doesn't have a mental health problem.   More than one mass murderer started out torturing and brutally killing animals.

 

There is no connection between killing or torturing animals and murder. I have never tortured an animal, let's get that out of the way. But just because somebody did doesn't mean they should be removed from the "approved firearms owner" list. If it were up to you, that list would be pretty short I would guess. And, good news, there are people that want to help you with that and make it shorter. And you might not make the cut.

[GRIZ 3,369]

 

 

There is no connection between killing or torturing animals and murder. I have never tortured an animal, let's get that out of the way. But just because somebody did doesn't mean they should be removed from the "approved firearms owner" list. If it were up to you, that list would be pretty short I would guess. And, good news, there are people that want to help you with that and make it shorter. And you might not make the cut.

 

If you were to do some research you will find killing and torturing animals is a trait of serial killers. So you're wrong on that. I don't see a lot of support for your claim that brutally killing and toturing animals is not abberant behavior.

 

You seem to read things that are not there. I never said to add animal torturers from the "approved firearms owners list". Such people have issues and perhaps they should be removed from the "list". Maybe we should have them all move to your neighborhood.

 

Could you show me where I said I wanted to make the "list" shorter?

 

You seem to want to make accusations and present arguments on things I never said.

 

There will be plenty of people who don't "make the cut" before me.

[Maksim 1,504]

Ok, seriously I do wonder now.... how come this was not a problem back in the Soviet Union or anywhere else for that matter 30 years ago? 50 years ago?

 

Or did we just not hear about it?

 

$10 bucks says if this happened in Texas.... this would not happen in Texas.

[mipafox 438]

If you were to do some research you will find killing and torturing animals is a trait of serial killers. So you're wrong on that.

 

No, I'm not. There is no data indicating that people who kill or torture animals are more likely to commit murder. You simply don't understand statistics and you have been mislead.

 

I don't see a lot of support for your claim that brutally killing and toturing animals is not abberant behavior.

 

I didn't say that. I said I don't want you deciding for everybody else who is allowed to have Second Amendment rights.

 

You seem to read things that are not there.  I never said to add animal torturers from the "approved firearms owners list". 

 

My mistake, but you have to admit, I would have had to be a mind reader to figure out that's not what you meant.

 

 Such people have issues and perhaps they should be removed from the "list".

 

There should be no list of permission.

 Maybe we should have them all move to your neighborhood.

 

Without a doubt, I would have them move to my neighborhood before I would want a person like you to move to my Commonwealth and have a vote. You are far more dangerous to me, my family, and my country.

Could you show me where I said I wanted to make the "list" shorter?

 

 

You just did, I quoted it in this post.

There will be plenty of people who don't "make the cut" before me.

 

 

 

Did you actually just say that? I think you just showed your true colors.

[KpdPipes 388]

No, I'm not. There is no data indicating that people who kill or torture animals are more likely to commit murder. You simply don't understand statistics and you have been mislead.

 

 

 

I didn't say that. I said I don't want you deciding for everybody else who is allowed to have Second Amendment rights.

 

 

 

My mistake, but you have to admit, I would have had to be a mind reader to figure out that's not what you meant.

 

 

 

There should be no list of permission.Without a doubt, I would have them move to my neighborhood before I would want a person like you to move to my Commonwealth and have a vote. You are far more dangerous to me, my family, and my country.

 

You just did, I quoted it in this post.

 

 

 

Did you actually just say that? I think you just showed your true colors.

 

maybe you should worry about the politicians you already have in "Your Commonwealth" before trying to dictate who moves there... http://www.legis.state.pa.us/cfdocs/Legis/CSM/showMemoPublic.cfm?chamber=H&SPick=20130&cosponId=10719