Legality of S&W 15-22P

[Lalo 13]

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If you were to replace the flash hider with a brake, would this pistol be legal to own in NJ? I can see it says restricted for sale in NJ, etc, but why?

 

Barrel Length: 6" / 15.2 cm

Overall Length: 15" / 38.1 cm

Weight: 51 oz. / 1,445.8 g

[DMahan 0]

The first glaring reason would be the 25 round magazine. It would need to be pinned to hold 15 rounds. Other than that, I don't see anything making it illegal here.

 

But I'm no expert so don't quote me :-p

[Anselmo 87]

ii. A semi-automatic pistol that has an ability to accept a detachable magazine and has at

least two of the following:

(1) An ammunition magazine that attaches to the pistol outside of the pistol grip;

(2) A threaded barrel capable of accepting a barrel extender, flash suppressor,

forward handgrip, or silencer;

(3) A shroud that is attached to, or partially or completely encircles the barrel and

that permits the shooter to hold the firearm with the non-trigger hand without being

burned;

(4) Manufactured weight of 50 ounces or more when the pistol is unloaded; and/or

(5) A semi-automatic version of an automatic firearm; and

 

It has 4 evil features. You're only allowed one.

[Nikos 31]

It's a no go since there's a barrel shroud. It must also weigh under 50? ounces.

 

 

[Lalo 13]

The first glaring reason would be the 25 round magazine. It would need to be pinned to hold 15 rounds. Other than that, I don't see anything making it illegal here.

 

But I'm no expert so don't quote me :-p

 

Right, sorry, besides from that and the flash hider. I have a 15-22 and plenty of 10 & 15 round mags. Would be awesome to find a pistol AR to share the mags.

[Lalo 13]

Weighs too much. Needs to be under 50 oz.

 

Was also thinking this but being that I own a 15-22, I know the metal front and rear sights are pretty heavy. What if they're replaces with a set of MBUS?

[Clintoon Eastwood 2]

That's awesome Lalo, too bad we can't have it, but with out the iron sights it might make it to less than 50 ounces

[AnthonyC83 0]

Those darn shoulder things that come up. That's why we can't have it

[vladtepes 1,060]

That's awesome Lalo, too bad we can't have it, but with out the iron sights it might make it to less than 50 ounces

 

well you would need to lose the front rail... I bet that weighs more than an ounce.. that might get you under the 50.. keep in mind TECHNICALLY it says a "manufactured weight".. so the weight it is at time of manufacturing might be what matters...

[Tactical Turtle 11]

If u loose that front end and have the barrel crowned with no flash hider due to weight absolutely nj legal

[vladtepes 1,060]

If u loose that front end and have the barrel crowned with no flash hider due to weight absolutely nj legal

 

are you sure?

 

define "manufactured weight" they may go by the actual weight at time of manufacturing to avoid having to carry around a scale.. lol

[brocglock23 4]

This is just creating conversation but I wonder if the weight includes an empty magazine in it.

So if you removed the flash suppressor, removed the front rail, pin the magazines would it then be NJ legal

[PK90 3,573]

MANUFACTURED WEIGHT. Not legal, IMHO.

 

Listen to vladtepes.

[Clintoon Eastwood 2]

well you would need to lose the front rail... I bet that weighs more than an ounce.. that might get you under the 50.. keep in mind TECHNICALLY it says a "manufactured weight".. so the weight it is at time of manufacturing might be what matters...

 

Crap... Why do you have to instantly crush our dreams of owning something cool with your "FACTS" vladtepes? Huh? Why?

 

Is it possible if an FFL in NJ gets one and modifies it himself then sell it in his store? Possibly?

[Tactical Turtle 11]

 

 

are you sure?

 

define "manufactured weight" they may go by the actual weight at time of manufacturing to avoid having to carry around a scale.. lol

That flash hider is an easy 1oz... so.if I was removed and the barrel crowned why not...

[vladtepes 1,060]

Crap... Why do you have to instantly crush our dreams of owning something cool with your "FACTS" vladtepes? Huh? Why?

 

Is it possible if an FFL in NJ gets one and modifies it himself then sell it in his store? Possibly?

 

they would have to manufacture a new firearm out of an old one.... I am not sure how that works in NJ.. but they would at least need to be an FFL07 ( I think)

[vladtepes 1,060]

That flash hider is an easy 1oz... so.if I was removed and the barrel crowned why not...

 

I believe the issue is NJ is not concerned about what it actually weighs.. it is not relevant to them in any way.. they are not interested in helping you along the path to a gun that complies.. they are instead looking for a reason to tell you it does not comply... the wording of the law cites manufactured weight.. likely as reported by the manufacturer.. flash hider.. empty mag.. etc.. all moot.. the manufacture states the gun is over 50 ounces.. so there it is.. that is all they care about.. sucks.. but pretty sure that is the situation..

[Tactical Turtle 11]

Ugh dr kill joy lol

[peterk2000 0]

It's butt ugly IMO.