Junior 14 Posted November 30, 2013 Would adding a barrel shroud to a MP 15-22 make the rifle illegal in NJ? In particularly i'm looking at these http://www.kineti-tech.com/barrel-shrouds-2/ Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JT Custom Guns 957 Posted November 30, 2013 Perfectly legal on a rifle in NJ - Go for it......................... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Lalo 13 Posted November 30, 2013 So in order to install these you either need a threaded barrel or a thread adapter correct? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Plinkster5000 0 Posted November 30, 2013 Does not threading the barrel even with an adapter make it verbodden? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JT Custom Guns 957 Posted December 1, 2013 No, because if you already have another "evil' feature - you just need to pin the shroud once it is installed. Just like installing a muzzle break....... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Junior 14 Posted December 1, 2013 So in order to install these you either need a threaded barrel or a thread adapter correct? yea, it looks that way. the threaded adapter for non threaded barrels attaches via a set screw, but the shroud still screws on. So on order for this to be legal the shroud now has to be pinned as well? how would you pin it? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Programmergeek 0 Posted December 2, 2013 I'm also interested in this. Nice find on the shroud. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
remixer 1,645 Posted December 2, 2013 If these are made of aluminum, just make sure whom ever does the pinning can tack weld aluminum. Steel pin and Aluminum weld does really match well Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DSD1026 48 Posted December 2, 2013 better yet, why would you bother on a 15-22? (just curious).. is it just the look? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
PK90 3,570 Posted December 2, 2013 IMO, a threaded adapter does not make the barrel become an evil feature. Sent from my DROID4 using Tapatalk Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
vladtepes 1,060 Posted December 2, 2013 If the barrel is not threaded If a threaded adapter is not permanently attached If the muzzle device does not suppress flash Then imo it is not covered by the nj awb... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
remixer 1,645 Posted December 2, 2013 I think we are referring to a threaded barrel not adapter Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
remixer 1,645 Posted December 2, 2013 The adapter is not part if the barrel so no issue Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Lalo 13 Posted December 3, 2013 Most from the factory NJ compliant 15-22's I've seen don't have threaded barrels. My only hesitation with this item is the question about pinning the adapter and/or shroud and if the shroud does in fact suppress any flash. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
vladtepes 1,060 Posted December 3, 2013 just for thought.. I had something similar on my CX4 storm.. it took me about 2 months to realize it was a stupid purchase... *pay to make front of gun heavier gain no operational advantage" Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Junior 14 Posted December 6, 2013 I'm stuck on the pinning part. If the shroud has to be pinned to the threaded adapter, it looks like the only way to do it would be a permanent solution (JB weld or tack welding the shroud to the adapter). Which how i see it would make the adapter now next to impossible to remove or attach to the barrel. I'm not even sure the shroud has to be pinned.. Technically the threaded adapter will be "pinned" via the set screw. I emailed Kineti-Tech for some more insight and he said he regularly ships to NJ. So theres people out there with these.. I'm curious to know their solutions.... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Junior 14 Posted December 6, 2013 Ok. The shroud cap is removable. so you can pin the cap to the threaded adapter, slide the shroud body over the barrel, secure the adapter to the barrel and then screw the shroud body into the cap. adapter is pinned, shroud is pinned, you're NJ safe and G2G I'm gonna order mine today. even though my Fiance wont let me shoot my M&P 15-22 until Christmas... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
vladtepes 1,060 Posted December 6, 2013 I'm not sure if I was clear before.... If the barrel is not threaded - you are ok If the shroud adapter I'd not a permanent part if the barrel per ATF guidelines it is not part of the equation The law only applies to two things... A flash hider Or A threaded barrel capable of accepting a flash hider Which is the last issue... Does the shroud suppress flash? No idea, but if it does... No go... But with all that said I don't see the use in all this.... You are just putting a weight on the end of a gun.... I mean your gun... I get the look... But it's kind of a waste... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
OfcrFek 21 Posted January 5, 2014 just for thought.. I had something similar on my CX4 storm.. it took me about 2 months to realize it was a stupid purchase... *pay to make front of gun heavier gain no operational advantage" I have one on my storm also. Every time I start to think it was a stupid purchase, I remember a long summer day of shooting last year, where I went to transition to my handgun, and a scalding hot cx4 barrel smacked me in the shin. lol Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NJSUX 2 Posted February 2, 2014 I have one. It adds a nice look to finish off the gun. It's only cosmetic. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
zoid 24 Posted February 9, 2014 I have one. It adds a nice look to finish off the gun. It's only cosmetic. I was about to ask if there was any functional aspect to the unit. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
vladtepes 1,060 Posted February 10, 2014 I have one on my storm also. Every time I start to think it was a stupid purchase, I remember a long summer day of shooting last year, where I went to transition to my handgun, and a scalding hot cx4 barrel smacked me in the shin. lol just throwing this out there.... single point sling? if there barrel of your gun is hitting your shin there is a different problem that has to be addressed.. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NJSUX 2 Posted February 11, 2014 I was about to ask if there was any functional aspect to the unit. Non what so ever. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
OfcrFek 21 Posted February 11, 2014 Single point that attaches at almost the pad of the stock. Hangs rather low, even when tight around my upper body. I was leaning forward as I ditched the Storm and stepping forward at the same time, and it swung down and hit me good. http://www.urbanertslings.com/beretta-cx4-storm-with-cx4-storm-adapter-mash-clip-and-optional-rsa/ it's kinda like that, but instead of the attachment point being right by the hole, it's further back, closer to where that buckle is. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
vladtepes 1,060 Posted February 11, 2014 Single point that attaches at almost the pad of the stock. Hangs rather low, even when tight around my upper body. I was leaning forward as I ditched the Storm and stepping forward at the same time, and it swung down and hit me good. http://www.urbanertslings.com/beretta-cx4-storm-with-cx4-storm-adapter-mash-clip-and-optional-rsa/ it's kinda like that, but instead of the attachment point being right by the hole, it's further back, closer to where that buckle is. I would seriously reconsider that setup... if you go to sidearm and move with any purpose that carbine will be swinging all over the place.. I used a single point on my storm when I had one.. that lasted about a week.. I switched to a 2 point and Magpul RSA on the top rail (just like the link you provided)...this let me move aggressively after transitioning to sidearm.. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites