glockamole 0 Posted June 6, 2014 Just ban magazines all together then... Sent from my SM-N900V using Tapatalk Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NYMetsFan86 9 Posted June 6, 2014 they're working their way toward that i guess Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
voyager9 3,437 Posted June 6, 2014 They're pushing hard in the news today how that shooter yesterday was tackled when his 5 round shotgun was being reloaded. I wouldn't be surprised to see that as justification that 5 rounds is the new new new magic number. Didn't the tackler also have pepper spray which helped incapacitate the shooter? I'm sure that had something to do with it. Ignoring the fact tht reloading a shotgun is usually completely different and more time consuming than replacing a mag. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
HBecwithFn7 296 Posted June 6, 2014 Didn't the tackler also have pepper spray which helped incapacitate the shooter? I'm sure that had something to do with it. Ignoring the fact tht reloading a shotgun is usually completely different and more time consuming than replacing a mag. Precisely. Plus, the shotgun shooter might be able to do a "tactical" reload of one or two shells and come back up firing just to push back whomever might be approaching them... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
magnawing 5 Posted June 6, 2014 Guess he hadn't seen these yet... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DeerSlayer 241 Posted June 6, 2014 Precisely. Plus, the shotgun shooter might be able to do a "tactical" reload of one or two shells and come back up firing just to push back whomever might be approaching them... Lol, I do that during September goose season, one finger free for the trigger the rest are holding shells to drop in when the mag is empty. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jtd771 18 Posted June 7, 2014 Didn't the tackler also have pepper spray which helped incapacitate the shooter? I'm sure that had something to do with it. Ignoring the fact tht reloading a shotgun is usually completely different and more time consuming than replacing a mag. When has the other side ever burdened themselves with all the facts? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mipafox 438 Posted June 9, 2014 As others have said, you will have 180 days to bring the magazines into compliance or get rid of them. What will actually happen is another story. I suspect most people will simply do nothing. Some will actively not comply and say, "come and take them." Yeah, right. We've been through this before. How many people you know with 30 round mags now? Or Colt AR-15s, AKs, etc? You'll figure out afte a couple years that it's not worth the risk of jail to take it outside your house. And you'll either get rid of them or have a ticking timebomb hidden in your basement that will be found when one of your kids or teachers calls DHSS and says you have guns and they are scared. Then you go to jail. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
quikz 34 Posted June 9, 2014 Why does my spidey senses tell me CC will let his 'veto' sunset and put his tail between his legs. Then, tell rest of country it was the democraps in NJ that did it. Burying the obvious in myriads of details and procedural red tape hiding his record on not being offensively Pro-2A in order to try to 'not have to explain it' to America. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Avalanche 42 Posted June 9, 2014 Why does my spidey senses tell me CC will let his 'veto' sunset and put his tail between his legs. Then, tell rest of country it was the democraps in NJ that did it. Burying the obvious in myriads of details and procedural red tape hiding his record on not being offensively Pro-2A in order to try to 'not have to explain it' to America. Christie is in such bad shape due to to his Ego and loud mouth he's painted himself into a corner with the budgets, pension issues, double dipping friends, and investigations he has little wiggle room left. I have the feeling he used this as a bargaining chip with Sweeney and yes, it will just pass due to his inaction. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NYMetsFan86 9 Posted June 9, 2014 That would mean he gives not one shit about our votes for whatever he runs for next Sent from my SCH-I535 using Tapatalk Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
HBecwithFn7 296 Posted June 9, 2014 That would mean he gives not one shit about our votes for whatever he runs for next Sent from my SCH-I535 using Tapatalk I'm not sure what might be "next" after this, for him, if not the White House. But there might be "next things" for his cronies, and we need to remind him of that. If he doesn't think he has a chance at this point, then he may very well let it lapse. If he still has any hope for the White House, or hopes for any of his pals, he'd best veto it unconditionally. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Avalanche 42 Posted June 9, 2014 That would mean he gives not one shit about our votes for whatever he runs for next Sent from my SCH-I535 using Tapatalk He doesnt, he's a politician. He is fighting for his political life and only cares about what's immediately in front of him. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Karatenurse 11 Posted June 11, 2014 I bet there will be a hot demand by the criminal element to take them off our hands for a nice profit. OR Instead of a gun buy back program they should set up a magazine buy back then! ... Just thinking off the top of my head. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BCeagle 12 Posted June 11, 2014 I bet there will be a hot demand by the criminal element to take them off our hands for a nice profit. OR Instead of a gun buy back program they should set up a magazine buy back then! ... Just thinking off the top of my head. I would rather hand them to a drug dealer than give them to the state. It wont make any difference in crime. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Princetonian58 53 Posted June 11, 2014 I remain optimistic Christie will veto but is "timing" his action. I suspect he may veto the bill right before the 4th of July when most people are distracted from the news cycle. Obviously, if he strongly felt that this was a good law, he'd have signed it right away with great fanfare and probably would have had some Newtown parents standing behind him as he did so. In other words, if he was going to allow this to become law, why not squeeze as much positive press coverage and political captial out of it as he can? He gains nothing by just allowing the bill to quitely become law without his input. He gets no positive press from the gun grabbers, no credit for the law, and infuriates the law abiding gun owners in the process. On the other hand, a quiet veto right before the holiday causes the smallest negative splash in the press and bolsters his red state credentials if he runs for President in 2016. Beyond this, the Republicans in the Legislature took a strong and for the most part united stand against this bill and he'd be cutting them off at the knees if he leaves them hanging. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mipafox 438 Posted June 11, 2014 This is New Jersey. None of us know what he stands to gain. Could be a $1MM job at Rutgers. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
HBecwithFn7 296 Posted June 11, 2014 He gains nothing by just allowing the bill to quitely become law without his input. He gets no positive press from the gun grabbers, no credit for the law, and infuriates the law abiding gun owners in the process. On the other hand, a quiet veto right before the holiday causes the smallest negative splash in the press and bolsters his red state credentials if he runs for President in 2016. Beyond this, the Republicans in the Legislature took a strong and for the most part united stand against this bill and he'd be cutting them off at the knees if he leaves them hanging. But, (and especially in light of the most recent shootings), if he vetoes it, he also risks a ton of negative karma from the gun grabbers and, especially, the MSM and "anti" social media outlets, who will keep the pressure up well into the holiday and after it's over. It's a tough risk/benefit calculation for him. Still, fair point about his not having signed it yet. If he was really in favor of it, he'd have done it by now. Helluva tightrope he's walking... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Shawnmoore81 623 Posted June 11, 2014 Vetoed so I was told Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mipafox 438 Posted June 11, 2014 Vetoed so I was told Today? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Shawnmoore81 623 Posted June 11, 2014 Yes but not announced yet Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
HBecwithFn7 296 Posted June 11, 2014 Yes but not announced yet Definitely no "social media" activity on it yet, either.... No tweets or anything.... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DSD1026 48 Posted June 11, 2014 so you were 'told' by who? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
remixer 1,645 Posted June 11, 2014 i have not seen anything yet.... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mipafox 438 Posted June 11, 2014 Definitely no "social media" activity on it yet, either What do you call NJGunforums? Chopped liver? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
HBecwithFn7 296 Posted June 11, 2014 What do you call NJGunforums? Chopped liver? MSSM....... (Main Stream Social Media) Twitter, Yahoo, FB, etc. etc. etc. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mipafox 438 Posted June 11, 2014 LOL Yeah, that's way more reliable. Ask them some more questions about NJ gun laws and politics. That's where I go! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
remixer 1,645 Posted June 11, 2014 any confirmation on this? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
HBecwithFn7 296 Posted June 11, 2014 LOL Yeah, that's way more reliable. Ask them some more questions about NJ gun laws and politics. That's where I go! I'm not looking for "accuracy/reliability." I'm looking for "activity." It's totally quiet, right now. If CC has taken action on this, then it hasn't been announced yet. I'd expect at least one tweet from the Office of the Gov., followed by a bunch of tweets from all sides. So far, nothing but crickets... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mipafox 438 Posted June 11, 2014 I'm not looking for "accuracy/reliability." I'm looking for "activity." It's totally quiet, right now. If CC has taken action on this, then it hasn't been announced yet. I'd expect at least one tweet from the Office of the Gov., followed by a bunch of tweets from all sides. So far, nothing but crickets... You heard it here first Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites