Mrs. Peel 7,157 Posted February 12, 2018 Wow! That certainly shows you what the attitude is: discourage them from even applying. GOOD FOR YOU!! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
capt14k 2,052 Posted February 12, 2018 So, as promised I am giving you my follow-up report. I was dressed in Business attire on my way home from work and stopped by my local PD. I was greeted by a friendly woman and told her I would like an application for a concealed carry permit. Her smile washed away and the questions started. Are you a ret LEO- me No Are you a a Jeweler-me No Are you a security blah blah blah- me No Her- we NEVER have given an approval here ever. Me- That's ok. Here's the app and it must include specific photos, filled out and signed in front of a notary, along with $50 app fee and you must use XYZ for fingerprints More $. Her-But I told you no one has ever been approved. I said thank you, see you in a few days. My take is this is a cultural thing with these people and how DARE you challenge us....I'll be back. I expect to be part of every lawsuit that happens. People, you either stand for your beliefs and do this or take a seat in the stands to watch. I Prefer to be in the 3% that will stand up to tyranny. What will you do? Thanks for the report. I will post mine tomorrow since my local PD only allows firearms permits 2-3 days a month 4 hrs each daySent from my XT1585 using Tapatalk Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Zeke 5,504 Posted February 12, 2018 9 minutes ago, Downtownv said: So, as promised I am giving you my follow-up report. I was dressed in Business attire on my way home from work and stopped by my local PD. I was greeted by a friendly woman and told her I would like an application for a concealed carry permit. Her smile washed away and the questions started. Are you a ret LEO- me No Are you a a Jeweler-me No Are you a security blah blah blah- me No Her- we NEVER have given an approval here ever. Me- That's ok. Here's the app and it must include specific photos, filled out and signed in front of a notary, along with $50 app fee and you must use XYZ for fingerprints More $. Her-But I told you no one has ever been approved. I said thank you, see you in a few days. My take is this is a cultural thing with these people and how DARE you challenge us....I'll be back. I expect to be part of every lawsuit that happens. People, you either stand for your beliefs and do this or take a seat in the stands to watch. I Prefer to be in the 3% that will stand up to tyranny. What will you do? I don’t see notary anywhere. I do see attached letter of justifiable need Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Downtownv 1,778 Posted February 12, 2018 6 minutes ago, Zeke said: I don’t see notary anywhere. I do see attached letter of justifiable need I Have a "package" she made for me with her personal cover sheet. Her verbal emphasized after completing the app including 3 references (Not Related) NOT to sign unless in front of a notary. There were NJSP forms AND the usual Mental health background form along with the con game bioapplicant.com fingerprint form (funny I know your finger prints never change and they are already on file. I think it's for 2 reasons Money and more work to. Nothing at all lists anything about need on what was given to me. I would expect that to come up in a face to face interview, however. More attempts to discourage you. I know, the game it will not deter me. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
nondisclosure 55 Posted February 12, 2018 Who do I give money to? 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Zeke 5,504 Posted February 12, 2018 1 minute ago, Downtownv said: I Have a "package" she made for me with her personal cover sheet. Her verbal emphasized after completing the app including 3 references (Not Related) NOT to sign unless in front of a notary. There were NJSP forms AND the usual Mental health background form along with the con game bioapplicant.com fingerprint form (funny I know your finger prints never change and they are already on file. I think it's for 2 reasons Money and more work to. Nothing at all lists anything about need on what was given to me. I would expect that to come up in a face to face interview, however. More attempts to discourage you. I know, the game it will not deter me. The letter of need part is right on top. Ive been informed of or see nothing that says notarized. 3x yes 3 reference yes 4 pictures yes 2 minutes ago, Chris1 said: Who do I give money to? Yourself and the state, and apply? 2 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
nondisclosure 55 Posted February 12, 2018 Ok..... Can it be done at the local PD station? I havent read much but I am certainly interested. During my former profession, FBI was required to come in and "look at stuff" and they even recommended I carry but that chance is long gone. 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Zeke 5,504 Posted February 12, 2018 I also see nothing about re fingerprint. I’m calling him on that for written proof Just now, Chris1 said: Ok..... Can be done at the local PD station? I havent read much but I am certainly interested. During my former profession, FBI was required to come in and "look at stuff" and they even recommended I carry but that chance is long gone. Link up above. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
nondisclosure 55 Posted February 12, 2018 2 minutes ago, Zeke said: I also see nothing about re fingerprint. I’m calling him on that for written proof Link up above. I'm on it. Thank you. 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Zeke 5,504 Posted February 12, 2018 Just now, Chris1 said: I'm on it. Thank you. Welcome Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Downtownv 1,778 Posted February 12, 2018 10 minutes ago, Zeke said: The letter of need part is right on top. Ive been informed of or see nothing that says notarized. 3x yes 3 reference yes 4 pictures yes The letter of need part is right on top. You're correct Letter of Need is required....(Notarized) Ive been informed of or see nothing that says notarized. Money order for $50 payable to the State of NJ copy of Drivers license Qualification Documents- Proof that you can safely can handle handguns you intend to carry. This is to include the training that you headlong with the trainers information more discretionary bullshit.... 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Zeke 5,504 Posted February 12, 2018 1 minute ago, Downtownv said: The letter of need part is right on top. You're correct Letter of Need is required....(Notarized) Ive been informed of or see nothing that says notarized. Money order for $50 payable to the State of NJ copy of Drivers license Qualification Documents- Proof that you can safely can handle handguns you intend to carry. This is to include the training that you headlong with the trainers information more discretionary bullshit.... Where are you seeing “ the qualifying documents “? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Maximus 16 Posted February 12, 2018 http://www.njsp.org/firearms/pdf/sp-642.pdf Zeke, looks like a place for a notary on the very bottom section of page 2. 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Zeke 5,504 Posted February 12, 2018 2 minutes ago, Maximus said: http://www.njsp.org/firearms/pdf/sp-642.pdf Zeke, looks like a place for a notary on the very bottom section of page 2. If you get it, me thinks 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
1LtCAP 4,263 Posted February 12, 2018 59 minutes ago, capt14k said: Thanks for the report. I will post mine tomorrow since my local PD only allows firearms permits 2-3 days a month 4 hrs each day Sent from my XT1585 using Tapatalk ISN'T that actually illegal? 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Zeke 5,504 Posted February 12, 2018 Just now, 1LtCAP said: ISN'T that actually illegal? Extra forms... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
1LtCAP 4,263 Posted February 12, 2018 34 minutes ago, Downtownv said: I Have a "package" she made for me with her personal cover sheet. Her verbal emphasized after completing the app including 3 references (Not Related) NOT to sign unless in front of a notary. There were NJSP forms AND the usual Mental health background form along with the con game bioapplicant.com fingerprint form (funny I know your finger prints never change and they are already on file. I think it's for 2 reasons Money and more work to. Nothing at all lists anything about need on what was given to me. I would expect that to come up in a face to face interview, however. More attempts to discourage you. I know, the game it will not deter me. just outta curiosity? you DID record your encounter, right? 'cause......nj is a 1 party state. 2 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Downtownv 1,778 Posted February 12, 2018 9 minutes ago, Zeke said: Where are you seeing “ the qualifying documents “? On the nice lady's cover sheet. I will call her and question that and finger printing as these are NOT list in the State police Documents... 2 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Downtownv 1,778 Posted February 12, 2018 3 minutes ago, 1LtCAP said: just outta curiosity? you DID record your encounter, right? 'cause......nj is a 1 party state. SMILING Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Zeke 5,504 Posted February 12, 2018 3 minutes ago, Downtownv said: On the nice lady's cover sheet. I will call her and question that and finger printing as these are NOT list in the State police Documents... This is seriously a pain in the cock! 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Downtownv 1,778 Posted February 12, 2018 9 minutes ago, Zeke said: If you get it, me thinks I saved this PDF... 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
1LtCAP 4,263 Posted February 12, 2018 awesome! that i'm pretty sure would be helpful to the lawyers too.......having the higher judges hear all the verbal discouragement....... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Downtownv 1,778 Posted February 12, 2018 Just now, Zeke said: This is seriously a pain in the cock! Clearly made to be as painful as they can make it... remember THEY don't want you in THEIR Club! Never lose sight of that! If I lose, I win! If I win, I win. I have nothing to lose as I will submit my app costs in joining every suit going! Either way, I want to piss on Loretta Weinberg's shoes... 4 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
1LtCAP 4,263 Posted February 12, 2018 so in addition to the state pd form that maximus provided the pdf for, we need much more? is this different town to town? or is there a way we can download everything, and walk into our pd with our stuff already filled out? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Zeke 5,504 Posted February 12, 2018 1 minute ago, Downtownv said: Clearly made to be as painful as they can make it... remember THEY don't want you in THEIR Club! Never lose sight of that! If I lose, I win! If I win, I win. I have nothing to lose as I will submit my app costs in joining every suit going! 1 minute ago, 1LtCAP said: so in addition to the state pd form that maximus provided the pdf for, we need much more? is this different town to town? or is there a way we can download everything, and walk into our pd with our stuff already filled out? @Maximus did you provide that form or click on my link? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Maximus 16 Posted February 12, 2018 Clicked and pasted the Zeke link..... you retain the credit for putting it out there.... 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
capt14k 2,052 Posted February 12, 2018 ISN'T that actually illegal?You would think so but somehow it isn't.Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Zeke 5,504 Posted February 13, 2018 35 minutes ago, Maximus said: Clicked and pasted the Zeke link..... you retain the credit for putting it out there.... Ha! @1LtCAP! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Zeke 5,504 Posted February 13, 2018 @gleninjersey don’t be the guy that wears a t shirt that says “ I jus make a lot of suggestions on the intronet “ jus sayen bro... too good for that. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Downtownv 1,778 Posted February 13, 2018 My favorite movie "Scent of a Woman" Al Pacino "When the Shit hits the fan... Some guys Run and some Guys Stay" enjoy! 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites