Thoughts on this weld job?

[sroc112 24]

Sorry not all pics super clear.

Had a basic muzzle brake pinned and welded to a new upper.

Look the way it should on this style brake?

[Cheflife15 455]

Respectfully that looks pretty rough. Where did you have that done? 

My last 2 weld jobs, I couldn't even find the spot without a flashlight. 

[sroc112 24]

Point Blank in East Hanover

[sroc112 24]

I'm not worried about the brake being ruined, it's a cheap basic a2 style brake. But I would feel better knowing I can have it removed and have a new one done by someone else, but I guess there is no way to know if it can be removed without destroying the thread until you actually try and remove it, and then may be too late of it was too deep to salvage.

[Cheflife15 455]

Most competent gun smith's can removed a pin and weld job without damaging the barrel.

Gun for hire does nice work. 

Monmouth arms also does really nice work.

[sroc112 24]

I was originally going to use monmouth arms but decided to ise this place as it was the most convenient for location at the time.

1 guy there was cool but the other dude I dealt with a few times, who was the one who did the work, was an asshole. I'll never go there again.

[diamondd817 827]

9 minutes ago, sroc112 said:

I'm not worried about the brake being ruined, it's a cheap basic a2 style brake. But I would feel better knowing I can have it removed and have a new one done by someone else, but I guess there is no way to know if it can be removed without destroying the thread until you actually try and remove it, and then may be too late of it was too deep to salvage.

That's a shit job, and the chances are you can't remove that without damaging the barrel/threads. Hence, the pin and welded nonsense. You should have went to FSS which is 5 minutes away. 

 

[sroc112 24]

Disappointing. Glad it wasn't on an expensive upper and the cost for the compliancy work was also not expensive at all. Live and learn but for my first AR it's a bummer.

[diamondd817 827]

17 minutes ago, sroc112 said:

Point Blank in East Hanover

And before that they were called County Line Firearms. I wouldn't even consider stepping foot in their establishment just from reading their store policy nonsense on their website. I guess most felt he same way, and that's why they went out of business/sold out. To hell with any gun store that adds unnecessary additional requirements and bullshit on top of NJ' bullshit.

[sroc112 24]

Never went in there when it was county line, so didn't have any prior experience with them. From my understanding they bought out one of the other owners and renamed.

[glockncolts 50]

I am a weld supervisor and I would fire that guy.........

[sroc112 24]

My first ar so I didn't know any better when I picked it up, but knew it didn't seem right. Did some more research when I got home and then just got pissed. Worst part about it now looking back is how much of a dick this guy was and the stupid comments he kept making. I won't be going back there for anything.

2 minutes ago, glockncolts said:

I am a weld supervisor and I would fire that guy.........

Chances you think something like this can be removed without destroying the barrel so I can have it redone?

[sroc112 24]

That pin hole is so far up the brake, I don't even know if it's notched into the actual barrel or sitting on top of the muzzle tip.

[glockncolts 50]

21 minutes ago, sroc112 said:

My first ar so I didn't know any better when I picked it up, but knew it didn't seem right. Did some more research when I got home and then just got pissed. Worst part about it now looking back is how much of a dick this guy was and the stupid comments he kept making. I won't be going back there for anything.

Chances you think something like this can be removed without destroying the barrel so I can have it redone?

Easy peasy. Just needs to be ground down until you see a line where it is not fused....

[sroc112 24]

You're a pro welder? Or was that a sarcastic comment amount firing that guy? Where you located 

[glockncolts 50]

1 minute ago, sroc112 said:

You're a pro welder? Or was that a sarcastic comment amount firing that guy? Where you located 

Aws certified weld supervisor..  I am in south jersey by vineland... Any welder with a pulse should be able to do that job....

 

[sroc112 24]

Lol OK thanks 

[njJoniGuy 2,131]

This story  is a reminder of two basic tenets of life::

1) You generally only get what you pay for.

and

2) Life is too short to deal with people who come across as assholes ... they usually are!

[GRIZ 3,369]

Looks sloppy.

[silverado427 10,731]

Wow. That’s a fugin  hack job…

[ESB 247]

The dude who did that is not a welder.  He's a grinder.    

[Bomber 1,092]

On 3/22/2024 at 8:43 AM, njJoniGuy said:

This story  is a reminder of two basic tenets of life::

2) Life is too short to deal with people who come across as assholes ... they usually are!

Gun store a-holes and and pin/weld jobs like that are the reason I gladly drive an hour to Monmouth Arms..

 

[sroc112 24]

Seperate question - I have a Magpul STR stock on this gun. There is no pin or hole visible anywhere on the stock from the pin job. They mentioned that they put something in between the little trigger piece on the stock that you squeeze to adjust it, so that it can't be moved. Mentioned that it can be removed if needed, although not easy to do with just your hands on the fly. They made it seem this was a better way to go about the pin, cosmetically anyway.

It almost appears like that little trigger piece on the stock is fully squeezed in, and then some internal pin placed somewhere within that mechanism to keep it from moving.

Anyone familiar with this method? Assuming since it makes the stock no longer adjustable, even temporarily, it solved the restriction around it. Or am I wrong?

[Displaced Texan 11,752]

On 3/29/2024 at 2:25 PM, sroc112 said:

Seperate question - I have a Magpul STR stock on this gun. There is no pin or hole visible anywhere on the stock from the pin job. They mentioned that they put something in between the little trigger piece on the stock that you squeeze to adjust it, so that it can't be moved. Mentioned that it can be removed if needed, although not easy to do with just your hands on the fly. They made it seem this was a better way to go about the pin, cosmetically anyway.

It almost appears like that little trigger piece on the stock is fully squeezed in, and then some internal pin placed somewhere within that mechanism to keep it from moving.

Anyone familiar with this method? Assuming since it makes the stock no longer adjustable, even temporarily, it solved the restriction around it. Or am I wrong?

When I lived in NJ, that’s how I had my stocks ‘pinned’. 
 

It meets the spirit of the law, in the respect that the stock cannot be adjusted. One would have to use tools to take the stock apart and change the LOP.