Employer info on pistol permits???

[NJdiverTony 27]

Hey all, just got my pistol permits yesterday (FINALLY!!!) after a looooong 5 month wait. I was looking at the permits and was wondering why do they list your occcupation, employer name/company name and work address on the permits??? I have absolutely no idea why that information is even relevant when buying a handgun (it isn't relevant at all!)... so why do they list it on the permit? Anybody know?

[NJ609 22]

Just another way to scare people off. Seriously.

[matt6669 71]

my pd leaves them off

[LorenzoS 100]

Exactly, it's one more way to intimidate people from getting guns, for fear of being persecuted by anti-gun employers.

[bry@n 195]

I put my employer on and I know my PD doesn't contact my employer. My direct mgr knows a lot of my crew has guns, so it's a non issue.

[Jsko 0]

Mine never got contacted either. 5 months is a killer man. My PD use to be a week for just pistol permits. I dropped off a App yesterday he said its 2-4 now. Still good timing compared to most of NJ.

[NJdiverTony 27]

My employer wasn't contacted either... and since I work for a huge corporation, they probably wouldn't even know who to call anyway. I just found it odd that they list your employment information on your pistol purchase permit. That information has no relevance when purchasing a handgun. I just find it kind of stupid. I mean they even list my occupation/job title on the permit... It's really not a big deal I guess... but I just don't see how that information is relevant at all on a purchase permit.

[robot_hell 72]

FWIW, my employer was not contacted. Which is good because I work in the city, so there's a good chance my boss isn't exactly the type to go handgunning on the weekends.

[tbtrout 141]

There are quite a few Depts that do contact your employer. Howell is one of them. They never use to but the lady that did them for years retired and the new lady does. I think it comes fron the training class they attend from the NJSP. From what I have heard, the NJSP tells them what the law requires and what THEY would also like to see happen in addition to the law. It is total bullshit. At one class the NJSP said the depts should assign detectives to verify the references with a visit to their house. So I have been told.

[Downr@nge 22]

Mine doesn't have that because I was unemployed at the time when I filed my application.

[Daedalus 19]

Congrats, Tony. I was up at Jim Flynn's today to fondle one of my two Dan Wesson's in his safe. I hate to hear that five month comment. That woul mean I have until May to get mine!

[NJdiverTony 27]

Congrats, Tony. I was up at Jim Flynn's today to fondle one of my two Dan Wesson's in his safe. I hate to hear that five month comment. That woul mean I have until May to get mine!

 

Thanks! I was there just a couple of hours ago to pick up my Beretta 92A1... I'll post some pics in a new post and in the appropriate forum.

[Don't Tread On Me 4]

I'm a student, and they make me put my college's info on the form.

[tony357 386]

5 months, that is the person doing your permits being a dick.

 

Edit: no sensor ship pretty cool.. figured it would have changed to ( hard stick )..

[NJ609 22]

Why would they have you put your school on there? You are NOT employed by them. That is just insanity.

[n4p226r 105]

i wouldnt even know what phone number to put on the app. so i always put my work phone. i havent gotten a call yet.

[NJdiverTony 27]

I wasn't referring to the application for a pistol permit... I was referring to the actual pistol permit.

[Don't Tread On Me 4]

Why would they have you put your school on there? You are NOT employed by them. That is just insanity.

 

No idea, but I had to.

[Wolfy 51]

It is complete BS and a way to intimidate legal citizens. How often do you think a citizen doesn't apply for fear their employer will know? I don't care if my employer knows!!

[aguilar64 9]

Just got this from the NJSP last week, read the "Employer" part:

NEW JERSEY STATE POLICE FIREARMS INVESTIGATION UNIT

10 MARCH 2011

FIREARMS PROCEDURAL UPDATE

3. DEALERS ARE TO ENSURE THAT THE PURCHASER’S OCCUPATION AND EMPLOYER IS LISTED ACCURATELY AND CLEARLY IN THE

APPROPRIATE BLOCK ON THE PERMIT TO PURCHASE A HANDGUN AND FORM OF REGISTER. IF THE ISSUING AUTHORITY FAILED TO

LIST SAME, HAVE THE PURCHASER COMPLETE IN YOUR PRESENCE.

[mcbethr 42]

I'd imagine it's there for people who are applying for weapons or cards that are job related.

 

If you work for Wackenhut or Pinkerton or Brinks and you need to get an FID card because you are going to work for them as an armorer, or a guard, it negates the need for a separate form.

 

I don't think my employer has ever been contacted. It may just be a box that is left over from the time when armed night watchmen / security was more common.

[Genewarper111 18]

Just got this from the NJSP last week, read the "Employer" part:

NEW JERSEY STATE POLICE FIREARMS INVESTIGATION UNIT

10 MARCH 2011

FIREARMS PROCEDURAL UPDATE

3. DEALERS ARE TO ENSURE THAT THE PURCHASER’S OCCUPATION AND EMPLOYER IS LISTED ACCURATELY AND CLEARLY IN THE

APPROPRIATE BLOCK ON THE PERMIT TO PURCHASE A HANDGUN AND FORM OF REGISTER. IF THE ISSUING AUTHORITY FAILED TO

LIST SAME, HAVE THE PURCHASER COMPLETE IN YOUR PRESENCE.

 

 

Sounds like a job for "Operation Ensure COmpliance" to me..... Bob?

 

G

 

ps - I just remembered that East Brunswick also asks for employer details

[Wildbob 14]

Howell PD contacted my employer. I am not in a gun related occupation.

[hd2000fxdl 422]

Sayreville never did it before and the person who is handling this for the PD is the same person, but they just did call my employer. My work phone contact is my phone that is shared by 5 of us managers so the PD called one of my co-workers.

 

If they call my wifes work, I hope she give herself a good recommendation being she owns her own travel agency.

 

Harry

[JackDaWack 2,895]

My PD just lists my position, they dont list my employer, i dont believe they called my employer either, as one of my co-workers had his town call in and was confronted about it, and i was not, we both applied around the same time too.

[Wildbob 14]

Howell PD contacted my employer. I am not in a gun related occupation.

 

Going deeper into this; I didn't give a person's name only the business name as employer. This means whoever opens the company mail read the contents and then forwarded it to the boss. It may not be a private matter at everyone's company depending on who opens the mail. It was OK at mine. Big boss mentioned it to my boss who already knew about it.