irishpete 2 Posted February 5, 2012 So looking at the substantially identical statue : i. A semi-automatic rifle that has the ability to accept a detachable magazine and has at least two of the following: (1) A folding or telescoping stock; (2) A pistol grip that protrudes conspicuously beneath the action of the weapon; (3) A bayonet mount; (4) A flash suppressor or threaded barrel designed to accommodate a flash suppressor; and (5) A grenade launcher; So any semi-automatic rifle which does not have a detachable magazine like the SKS would not have to play the evil features game and could have all of them on it and still be NJ legal. Opinion ? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Krdshrk 3,878 Posted February 5, 2012 SKS is C&R Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RobertJames 14 Posted February 5, 2012 I could be wrong, but I don't believe that NJ recognizes C&R. I think an SKS with a removable magazine is on the banned list. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
9X19 125 Posted February 5, 2012 Curious about whether NJ recogognizes C&R as well. My guess is no..... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
lunker 274 Posted February 5, 2012 So looking at the substantially identical statue : So any semi-automatic rifle which does not have a detachable magazine like the SKS would not have to play the evil features game and could have all of them on it and still be NJ legal. Opinion ? you are correct . the only illegal SKS are the ones with the AK style rock and lock mags. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GRIZ 3,369 Posted February 5, 2012 You'll find nothing in Nj statutes that say anything about C&R. As long as you keep the stock non-detachable magazine with the SKS anything goes. However you still need to pay attention to 922r requirements. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
PK90 3,573 Posted February 5, 2012 You'll find nothing in Nj statutes that say anything about C&R. As long as you keep the stock non-detachable magazine with the SKS anything goes. However you still need to pay attention to 922r requirements. THIS Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kaiser7 33 Posted February 5, 2012 you are correct . the only illegal SKS are the ones with the AK style rock and lock mags. Sorry for being thick, but I'm confused. the "lock and rock" mags, what do you mean by that? I thought that SKS with any sort of detachable boxmags were illegal. If I bought one that had a detachable magazine, I would be committing a crime, but it's only ones with a certain type of magazine? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RecessedFilter 222 Posted February 5, 2012 I don't know what the hell lock and rock mags are, but an SKS that can accept detachable magazines is illegal. An SKS with a fixed magazine is legal, and you can do whatever you want too t. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
vladtepes 1,060 Posted February 5, 2012 it means forget SKS.. or anything else.. is the gun semi auto? does it have a detachable magazine? if BOTH answers are YES.. then you need to play evil features game.. if ONE of those answers is NO.. then you do NOT need to play.. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
vladtepes 1,060 Posted February 5, 2012 I don't know what the hell lock and rock mags are, but an SKS that can accept detachable magazines is illegal. An SKS with a fixed magazine is legal, and you can do whatever you want too t. per being a "named assault weapon" Algimec AGM1 typeAny shotgun with a revolving cylinder such as the "Street Sweeper" or "Striker 12" Armalite AR-180 type Australian Automatic Arms SAR Avtomat Kalashnikov type semi-automatic firearms Beretta AR-70 and BM59 semi-automatic firearms Bushmaster Assault Rifle Calico M-900 Assault carbine and M-900 CETME G3 Chartered Industries of Singapore SR-88 type Colt AR-15 and CAR-15 series Daewoo K-1, K-2, Max 1 and Max 2, AR 100 types Demro TAC-1 carbine type Encom MP-9 and MP-45 carbine types FAMAS MAS223 types FN-FAL, FN-LAR, or FN-FNC type semi-automatic firearms Franchi SPAS 12 and LAW 12 shotguns G3SA type Galil type Heckler and Koch HK91, HK93, HK94, MP5, PSG-1 Intratec TEC 9 and 22 semi-automatic firearms M1 carbine type M14S type MAC 10, MAC 11, MAC 11-9 mm carbine type firearms PJK M-68 carbine type Plainfield Machine Company Carbine Ruger K-Mini-14/5 F and Mini-14/5 RF SIG AMT, SIG 550SP, SIG 551SP, SIG PE-57 types SKS with detachable magazine type Spectre Auto carbine type Springfield Armory BM59 and SAR-48 type Sterling MK-6, MK-7 and SAR types Steyr A.U.G. semi-automatic firearms USAS 12 semi-automatic type shotgun Uzi type semi-automatic firearms Valmet M62, M71S, M76, or M78 type semi-automatic firearms Weaver Arm Nighthawk; Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
matty 810 Posted February 5, 2012 "Rock & Lock" are mags made to be used with a standard SKS minus the fixed mag and with or without a duckbill adapter installed on the rifle or part of the mag itself. According the SKS forums, Tapco makes the best, supposedly. In any case, the SKS with ANY sort of detachable mag (modified or SKS-M) is illegal by name under the NJ AWB. If you have an SKS with a fixed mag, you can put a PG+ adjustable stock, flash suppressor, etc, what-ever, keeping in mind 922r. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
lunker 274 Posted February 5, 2012 Basically, stock SKS with the hinged box mag are OK in Jersey. To my knowledge, the only stock configued SKS that is banned in Jersey was made in China. It came stock with the AK mag setup. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kaiser7 33 Posted February 5, 2012 Basically, stock SKS with the hinged box mag are OK in Jersey. To my knowledge, the only stock configued SKS that is banned in Jersey was made in China. It came stock with the AK mag setup. Guess this just shows my ignorance of SKSes. I always thought the mags were stationary, like the one on a Mosin, and you simply fed it with strippers. So how does it work, it's on a hinge, and swings open for loading? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
matty 810 Posted February 5, 2012 No, its fed from top with strippers, the release is for unloading the mag if you need to, it drops the whole body of the mag down on the hinge. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
irishpete 2 Posted February 6, 2012 OK, so I was looking at an chinese SKS with fixed mag which had a birdcage flash-hider on it. Do they come with these ? If not, What are the ramifications of this ? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
EchoMirage 137 Posted February 6, 2012 nothing Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
halbautomatisch 60 Posted February 6, 2012 Would 922r even come into play on an SKS with a fixed mag? I thought that 922r was only a concern on rifles that can accept "high cap" mags - think Saiga, all Russian parts because it can't take a mag over 10 rounds without modification. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
lunker 274 Posted February 6, 2012 Would 922r even come into play on an SKS with a fixed mag? I thought that 922r was only a concern on rifles that can accept "high cap" mags - think Saiga, all Russian parts because it can't take a mag over 10 rounds without modification. 922R only counts if you take the gun out of it's imported sporterized configuration. 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites