gunguy1960 2 Posted June 12, 2012 Riddle me this, just for fun, how is it legal to to have multiple rifles (nj does consider these guns, right?), which fire full auto (nj law on full auto?) Being shot in a surrounding of people (range rules?) Just think about our screwed up rules and think about the scenerio on the boardwalk. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RedBowTies88 41 Posted June 12, 2012 Living 5 minutes from wildwood I've often found myself wondering the same thing. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Tactical Turtle 11 Posted June 12, 2012 I have asked a seaside cop and he told me to mind my own business lol. This is after a friendly its been a while convo we had lol. Oh well, its illegal Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Njgunowner 2 Posted June 12, 2012 They get away with it for a couple of reasons. One, they are permanently attached to the table, either by a bracket or chain. Next they will NOT function independently of the compressor used to power said bb guns. Therefore walking down the street with one isn't really going to do much for you. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RedBowTies88 41 Posted June 12, 2012 12 gallon air tank on your back and you might do something Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Tactical Turtle 11 Posted June 12, 2012 I have a 68/4500 psi carbon fiber tank that shoots 2000 paintballs easily, I'm positive it can operate the action. And permently mounted... Everyone I have used had a Walmart chain rusted attached to it. But with that logic if I permanently mount a nv mg to the back of a truck and run a aircompressor to it.. its legal? They are illegal Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Parker 213 Posted June 12, 2012 Some of us remember the days when "gallery guns" were .22 cal. Remington Speedmaster's & Nylon 66's at carnivals and such venues. Boy, the world has changed, hasn't it? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Arbelest 29 Posted June 12, 2012 Hmmm I never thought of that, valid point though... I guess the town/state grants an exception so they can bring in revenue and collect taxes on it? Usually when something illegal happens in this state money is involved somewhere. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sigman 41 Posted June 12, 2012 Yes - I remember shooting .22 shorts in the Nylon 66's. Maybe it was the Flemington fair? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Njgunowner 2 Posted June 12, 2012 When I was in the Boy Scouts in Missouri, if you sold enough popcorn things you could get a .22 youth rifle (with parental consent), hatchet, pocket knife, etc. Now, not so much. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
quikz 34 Posted June 12, 2012 Next, it will be AirSoft. Just wait, you will all see, its coming. Dumb laws designed to dumb-down people. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Anselmo 87 Posted June 12, 2012 12 gallon air tank on your back and you might do something Anton Chigurh did some damage. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kadayo 39 Posted June 12, 2012 These BB guns are actually manufactured in NJ. Check out the website. http://www.shootingstargames.com/ I actually won a Wii a few years back down at Keansburg Amusement park shooting out the star. One of my useless talents came in handy. Usually I just win some massive stuffed animal and then throw it out. Anyone else ever shoot the star out? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GRIZ 3,369 Posted June 13, 2012 These BB guns are actually manufactured in NJ. Check out the website. http://www.shootingstargames.com/ I actually won a Wii a few years back down at Keansburg Amusement park shooting out the star. One of my useless talents came in handy. Usually I just win some massive stuffed animal and then throw it out. Anyone else ever shoot the star out? I have twice. But I'm 108 years old and must have spent several hundred dollars doing it. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
hopper 36 Posted June 13, 2012 Anton Chigurh did some damage. Haha great movie !! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
checko 180 Posted June 13, 2012 I have twice. But I'm 108 years old and must have spent several hundred dollars doing it. Thats pretty freaking old. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Fishpaw 17 Posted June 13, 2012 These BB guns are actually manufactured in NJ. Check out the website. http://www.shootingstargames.com/ I actually spoke to a guy that worked at that place and asked the same question. He said that they have an exemption because of the size of the BBs used. They arent standard bb, but number 1 chilled shot, which are smaller. I could not verify this info however. They also work on 150 psi, which is more than many average home compressors. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JackDaWack 2,895 Posted June 13, 2012 I actually spoke to a guy that worked at that place and asked the same question. He said that they have an exemption because of the size of the BBs used. They arent standard bb, but number 1 chilled shot, which are smaller. I could not verify this info however. They also work on 150 psi, which is more than many average home compressors. 150psi is basically standard for small(TINY) portable compressors although they do vary and go lower, my 15gallon is 200psi i think, and a c02 tank will put 150psi to shame be portable and light. and i think the BB's need to be BIGGER not smaller in order to clear regulation. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Tactical Turtle 11 Posted June 13, 2012 That's really low, my paintball gun find at 230 lol Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JackDaWack 2,895 Posted June 13, 2012 That's really low, my paintball gun find at 230 lol The tank itself is rated well above 1000psi...lol.... but i think they are 800psi full. i cant remember how high i got mine to shoot paint with out breaking the ball, but i remember cranking my regulator up to like 500psi once. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Tactical Turtle 11 Posted June 13, 2012 I actually spoke to a guy that worked at that place and asked the same question. He said that they have an exemption because of the size of the BBs used. They arent standard bb, but number 1 chilled shot, which are smaller. I could not verify this info however. They also work on 150 psi, which is more than many average home compressors. Hmmm so I can have an exception to evil features if the projectile is a certain size.......so Target shot is even smaller and even though there is 100000000 of them leaving a shotgun barrel, maybe saiga 12 with bump fire lmao..... I'm playing.... Or am I? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Tactical Turtle 11 Posted June 13, 2012 The tank itself is rated well above 1000psi...lol.... but i think they are 800psi full. i cant remember how high i got mine to shoot paint with out breaking the ball, but i remember cranking my regulator up to like 500psi once. I had my cocker shooting at 750 and not breaking paint.... The paintballs were hitting so hard I was putting wholes in garbage cans!!!! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JackDaWack 2,895 Posted June 13, 2012 I had my cocker shooting at 750 and not breaking paint.... The paintballs were hitting so hard I was putting wholes in garbage cans!!!! I'm just visualizing the welt that would leave... your FPS must have been insane. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Tactical Turtle 11 Posted June 13, 2012 Haha I wouldn't of shot it at anyone lol Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GRIZ 3,369 Posted June 13, 2012 Thats pretty freaking old. If I tell people my real age they say I look it. If I tell them I'm 108 they always say I look good for my age. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DirtyDigz 1,812 Posted June 13, 2012 I actually spoke to a guy that worked at that place and asked the same question. He said that they have an exemption because of the size of the BBs used. They arent standard bb, but number 1 chilled shot, which are smaller. ... I call bullsh#t. There's no exemption for projectile size in the statutes that I'm aware of. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BigHayden 77 Posted June 13, 2012 I call bullsh#t. There's no exemption for projectile size in the statutes that I'm aware of. Glad you put "that I'm aware of" at the end... 2C39-1(f) f. "Firearm" means any handgun, rifle, shotgun, machine gun, automatic or semi-automatic rifle, or any gun, device or instrument in the nature of a weapon from which may be fired or ejected any solid projectable ball, slug, pellet, missile or bullet, or any gas, vapor or other noxious thing, by means of a cartridge or shell or by the action of an explosive or the igniting of flammable or explosive substances. It shall also include, without limitation, any firearm which is in the nature of an air gun, spring gun or pistol or other weapon of a similar nature in which the propelling force is a spring, elastic band, carbon dioxide, compressed or other gas or vapor, air or compressed air, or is ignited by compressed air, and ejecting a bullet or missile smaller than three eighths of an inch in diameter, with sufficient force to injure a person. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RedBowTies88 41 Posted June 13, 2012 Trust me the shot they use is much smaller the 3/8ths whoever said #1 shot is incorrect. its more like #7 or so. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DirtyDigz 1,812 Posted June 13, 2012 Edit: wait a second Hayden, your cite is an **inclusion**, not an exemption!: ...It shall also include, without limitation, any firearm which is in the nature of an air gun, spring gun or pistol or other weapon of a similar nature in which the propelling force is a spring, elastic band, carbon dioxide, compressed or other gas or vapor, air or compressed air, or is ignited by compressed air, and ejecting a bullet or missile smaller than three eighths of an inch in diameter, with sufficient force to injure a person. Includes! So it means it's a firearm. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BigHayden 77 Posted June 13, 2012 Edit: wait a second Hayden, your cite is an **inclusion**, not an exemption!: Includes! So it means it's a firearm. I didn't say that it did not meet the definition of a firearm. I agree that it does, but you said: I call bullsh#t. There's no exemption for projectile size in the statutes that I'm aware of. and I pulled the statute that mentions projectile size to show you that there is an exemption. That exemption is actually for projectiles larger than 3/8", as jackdawack alludes to in this post: 150psi is basically standard for small(TINY) portable compressors although they do vary and go lower, my 15gallon is 200psi i think, and a c02 tank will put 150psi to shame be portable and light. and i think the BB's need to be BIGGER not smaller in order to clear regulation. I agree, those games should not be exempt because of the projectile size, since they aren't larger than 3/8", but there is a projectile size exemption in the statutes. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites