panteramatt 27 Posted June 27, 2012 Im sure this will never happen here but I was talking to a huge gun enthusiest today who was told by a retired state trooper that nj may get rid of p2p's! Im sure its just a rumor and may have been discussed here but anyone know of any truth to this? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
vjf915 456 Posted June 27, 2012 Yep, they're going to approve my CCW permit next month. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
johnp 45 Posted June 27, 2012 Yep, they're going to approve my CCW permit next month. You didn't get yours yet? Got mine last week. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
panteramatt 27 Posted June 27, 2012 I figured I wouldnt get a straight answer. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The_Matrix 105 Posted June 27, 2012 You didn't get yours yet? Got mine last week. Yep, they're going to approve my CCW permit next month. They are also getting rid of the assault weapons ban. I also saw a Unicorn AND bigfoot. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ron 0 Posted June 27, 2012 I asked Nessie and Champy and they both agreed on 2 points... 1. Bigfoot is a douchbag 2. Full auto conversions of any firearm by 2013 in the Garden State Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
PK90 3,573 Posted June 27, 2012 Im sure this will never happen here but I was talking to a huge gun enthusiest today who was told by a retired state trooper that nj may get rid of p2p's! Im sure its just a rumor and may have been discussed here but anyone know of any truth to this? Sort of. A Bill may be introduced soon that eliminates the redundant application process for permits. Registration/permits will be handled by dealers for all dealer purchased handguns. Face to face acquisitions will still be the same. OGAM will remain. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
lunker 274 Posted June 27, 2012 This has been gunshop gossip for about two years now. I am not holding my breath. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ian S 22 Posted June 27, 2012 There was a bill introduced in 2009 to eliminate fingerprinting and to use only the NICS check to determine approval for FPIDs and P2Ps, http://www.njleg.state.nj.us/2012/Bills/A3000/2695_I1.HTM Additionally, that bill reduces the approval requirement to 10 days from the current 30. That hasn't gone anywhere and is still listed in this legislative session. But, what you're hearing is the news on page 4 of the May/June issue of ANJRPC's News & Briefs. They are working on a bill to eliminate permits for purchases that go through an FFL that would use the NICS. The bill has been drafted and they are waiting for a bill number to be assigned. The form of registry would still be filled out at the time of purchase. This kinda leaves face to face private sales unaddressed and you'd think the older bill would have a better shot at paying if they don't address private sales. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ian S 22 Posted June 27, 2012 Sort of. A Bill may be introduced soon that eliminates the redundant application process for permits. Registration/permits will be handled by dealers for all dealer purchased handguns. Face to face acquisitions will still be the same. OGAM will remain. So if you want something, you either go to a dealer and buy it whenever you want, or you find a private seller and then go apply for a permit, wait 6 to 8 months in some cases, and then get to buy used? I guess everything will start moving through dealers. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
PK90 3,573 Posted June 27, 2012 I guess everything will start moving through dealers. Just like PA. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RubberBullets 65 Posted June 27, 2012 [quote n I guess everything will start moving through dealers. This would make me happy. Find a quality dealer that will take care of his customers and I am a happy man. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ian S 22 Posted June 27, 2012 Even for the typical transfer fees and NICS fee, I'd have no complaint. Sounds better than the current system. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
hopper 36 Posted June 27, 2012 Join the NJ2AS and attend some meetings , youll find out everything thats going on in this horrible state concerning 2A rights and what they are doing to fight it ........ http://www.nj2as.com Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Pizza Bob 1,488 Posted June 28, 2012 Just like PA. ?????????????????? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
panteramatt 27 Posted June 28, 2012 Sort of. A Bill may be introduced soon that eliminates the redundant application process for permits. Registration/permits will be handled by dealers for all dealer purchased handguns. Face to face acquisitions will still be the same. OGAM will remain. THANK YOU!!!! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RubberBullets 65 Posted June 28, 2012 Im surprised NJ hasnt gone the way of uber profit and offered an "express processing" option for $100 to get your permit in under a week. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
PK90 3,573 Posted June 28, 2012 ?????????????????? AFAIK, all handgun transfers must go through a dealer in PA. I see NJ going that route if the aforementioned became law. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MarkP 0 Posted June 28, 2012 They are also getting rid of the assault weapons ban. I also saw a Unicorn AND bigfoot. thats nothing, i saw bigfoot RIDING a unicorn, what now... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
halbautomatisch 60 Posted June 28, 2012 AFAIK, all handgun transfers must go through a dealer in PA. I see NJ going that route if the aforementioned became law. Yup, in PA handguns must be transferred though dealers, I believe there is also a way to transfer handguns privately by having the county sheriff or PASP run a NICS check and doing the paperwork on the buyer - not exactly sure how that works though. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BigHayden 77 Posted June 28, 2012 Sort of. A Bill may be introduced soon that eliminates the redundant application process for permits. Registration/permits will be handled by dealers for all dealer purchased handguns. Face to face acquisitions will still be the same. OGAM will remain. That's a step in the right direction. I sent a letter to my reps a few years back asking them to sponsor something like this... This has been gunshop gossip for about two years now. I am not holding my breath. Well, Paul does run a gunshop. This would make me happy. Find a quality dealer that will take care of his customers and I am a happy man. I have. Paul is my guy, and if you live in S.J., he can be your regular dealer too. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
9supratt4 0 Posted June 28, 2012 There was a bill introduced in 2009 to eliminate fingerprinting and to use only the NICS check to determine approval for FPIDs and P2Ps, http://www.njleg.sta...000/2695_I1.HTM Additionally, that bill reduces the approval requirement to 10 days from the current 30. That hasn't gone anywhere and is still listed in this legislative session. But, what you're hearing is the news on page 4 of the May/June issue of ANJRPC's News & Briefs. They are working on a bill to eliminate permits for purchases that go through an FFL that would use the NICS. The bill has been drafted and they are waiting for a bill number to be assigned. The form of registry would still be filled out at the time of purchase. This kinda leaves face to face private sales unaddressed and you'd think the older bill would have a better shot at paying if they don't address private sales. The link you provided and the stat leg website shows that this law was just presented again on March 8, 2012. This should be something that we all should write our reps about, no? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites