An Apology To All

[hd2000fxdl 422]

To all,

 

A few weeks ago, I know I did everyone here a huge disservice. I mentioned a thing my wife and I got into and was and am very excited but went about it the wrong way. I mentioned a travel club and probably sounded like I should have been put in a rubber room in a strait-jacket the way I presented it.

 

I am not going to say that it will change your life the way it has my wife’s and mine, but I will say that at least not taking a few minutes to check it out would be a mistake.

 

I would like the chance to at least show you this in person or online, I would really hate to see for lack of better words “Throwing up on the Forum” with a crazy idea the way I presented it to have anyone miss something that could be at worst if you like it, a way to get better deals in travel, while it does have a lot of other possibilities, Traveling like an insider is the main product just with something extra.

 

Here is the deal, If you want to see it presented the correct way, great, if not that’s just fine, but again, please don’t let my mistake rob you of seeing this.

While it’s best viewed and explained in person, this can also be done online.

 

Click the Travel Club link in my signature if you like.

 

For your time and trouble I am also providing the link below, this would be for anyone who would like to just become a Preferred Customer. A Preferred Customer cost absolutely nothing. While the travel deals are not the same as Club Members, they are very good. As a Preferred Member all you get is another search engine for Travel, Air Fare, Hotels, Cruises, Rental Cars. You can use the Preferred Member Search engine and compare pricing for travel just as you would with any other search engine and pick the price that’s the best. So nothing lost but maybe save yourself some money the next time you travel or need any of the services available.

 

Here is the link to sign up for your free Preferred Member account.

 

Preferred Member

 

Again, I’m sorry the way I presented this the first time and really don’t care if anyone signs up for a membership, I just want to know I provided the info to view and can never have anyone who sees this the ability to come back to me and ask why I didn’t let them know about it, that’s it.

 

PM me, if you like to set up a meeting, or if you just have questions and I’d be happy to answer any you have.

 

That's it Folks, now back to guns and fun.

[Ray Ray 3,566]

What are you talking about Harold?

[Guest]

Harry, I am personally offended to the highest degree that you had even THOUGHT about presenting such a nonsensical scheme............

 

Wasting my valuable time and bandwidth on such drivel.....

 

BAN him I say !..........

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Just kidding ya there Harry !

 

 

 

 

I hope you take it in the manner with which it was meant.......

 

I will take you up on some steel though...............

[TK421 2]

I watched this video testimonial (his words not mine) about World Ventures and all I could think while he was talking was "We A-L-L BUNDLE..." LOL

 

[PeteF 1,044]

I thought this was an Obama thread.

 

Nevermind

[RubberBullets 65]

What are you talking about Harold?

 

 

Reckon it was this.

 

 

http://njgunforums.c...__1#entry522018

[hd2000fxdl 422]

What are you talking about Harold?

 

Ray, check it out, you like it , great, if not fantastic, it's not for everyone but it's at least worth a look at, plus, at worst you can become a free preferred member for another option for booking what you you would normally book if you ever travel.

[hd2000fxdl 422]

Harry, I am personally offended to the highest degree that you had even THOUGHT about presenting such a nonsensical scheme............

 

Wasting my valuable time and bandwidth on such drivel.....

 

BAN him I say !..........

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Just kidding ya there Harry !

 

 

 

 

I hope you take it in the manner with which it was meant.......

 

I will take you up on some steel though...............

 

Will keep you posted on the Steel if I get around to doing that again. I thought I exhausted the need for steel, but have had a few people ask me in PM's if I was ever going to do another Steel Buy.

 

I'll let you and everyone know if I do that again, It was a lot more work than I originally thought th first go around, but was very happy to help everyone out who at that time wanted to get in on it, plus it felt good just doing a good dead so to speak. Being I am not a vendor, I wasn't look at making any money on it, and I didn't on the last one, and wouldn't if I do it again, but if I get enough PM's I just might organize it at the end of the year, if not, late winter to early spring.

 

Keep you all posted, and did learn one thing, how to make my daily driver into a low rider with over a 1000LBS of Steel in it bringing it home.. LOL

[hd2000fxdl 422]

I watched this video testimonial (his words not mine) about World Ventures and all I could think while he was talking was "We A-L-L BUNDLE..." LOL

 

 

TK, Just know you will see a lot of positive reviews and there are negative ones as is with probably any company, all I can say is, I'm running with this, my wife and I as 110% into this and as far as making money, yup it's true, you can, as far as trips, yup the prices are not fake, heck I only have 3 vacations planned for the remainder of the year and the wife has 4, yes I know 1 more than me, but thats the way the cookie crumbles.

 

Also know we are going because of the Company, not because I have been working for the Airlines for over 25 years, or because my Wife owns her own travel Agency either, also the way it works, we will be able to take at least 2 if not more vacations next year that will cost me nothing out of pocket so I know it's real and not a scam, but to each their own.

 

Actually what I like best about it, is the family atmosphere, the team atmosphere, I really am tired of the political games that are played at work and like a place where there is no BS or any back stabbing, the people that don't make it in this game are the ones that don't want to help each other. Now tat is for the business side of this, the Travel side is just that, not everyone gets into the business side just so you know this isn't something you have to work at if you don't want to. After all it is a travel club, but I'mjust in the business end of it also.

[hd2000fxdl 422]

Reckon it was this. http://njgunforums.c...__1#entry522018

 

Yup, that's the thing I called Throwing up on the Forum so to speak. lol

[LorenzoS 100]

World Ventures? It took Googling for all of 1 minute to see this is a blatant pyramid scam. Stay away. If you're already involved get out and for goodness sake do not hand them another penny or agree to anything else.

[TK421 2]

TK, Just know you will see a lot of positive reviews and there are negative ones as is with probably any company, all I can say is, I'm running with this, my wife and I as 110% into this and as far as making money, yup it's true, you can, as far as trips, yup the prices are not fake, heck I only have 3 vacations planned for the remainder of the year and the wife has 4, yes I know 1 more than me, but thats the way the cookie crumbles.

 

Also know we are going because of the Company, not because I have been working for the Airlines for over 25 years, or because my Wife owns her own travel Agency either, also the way it works, we will be able to take at least 2 if not more vacations next year that will cost me nothing out of pocket so I know it's real and not a scam, but to each their own.

 

Actually what I like best about it, is the family atmosphere, the team atmosphere, I really am tired of the political games that are played at work and like a place where there is no BS or any back stabbing, the people that don't make it in this game are the ones that don't want to help each other. Now tat is for the business side of this, the Travel side is just that, not everyone gets into the business side just so you know this isn't something you have to work at if you don't want to. After all it is a travel club, but I'mjust in the business end of it also.

 

I meant nothing negative, to each his own, I just poked around looking for info on the company and found that video. The guy seemed sincere but the video had a certain Jim Jones Peoples Temple-esque kind of aura to it. I thought it was funny.

[hd2000fxdl 422]

World Ventures? It took Googling for all of 1 minute to see this is a blatant pyramid scam. Stay away. If you're already involved get out and for goodness sake do not hand them another penny or agree to anything else.

 

A Pyramid scam is something that doesn't have a product, this is a product and as far as getting out, no way I can't turn down doing 10 or more vacations a year, some of them paid for with no money out of pocket, add in I'm not going as fas as others being it's just part time for me, but I'll take the 600 bucks a month for my new BWM by April of next year, let alone matching what I make per year in as little as 9 months of gettin in and only goin up from there, but thanks for the warning. lol

 

By the way, if you look into it, not everyone is in the business end of it, it's base product is a travel club just like Disney and the others, just $1000's less to get in and huge saving over the others as well as 1000's of other options of places to go and not just 1 or 2 resorts.

[hd2000fxdl 422]

I meant nothing negative, to each his own, I just poked around looking for info on the company and found that video. The guy seemed sincere but the video had a certain Jim Jones Peoples Temple-esque kind of aura to it. I thought it was funny.

 

Didn't take anything negative, and like I said, if people like it for just the travel side, great, like it for the business side great, if they want to have nothing to do with it, no skin off my back at all, just something while yes I am in this for a gain, people who don't like it don't and that's that, but if anyone is interested, I'm here as well as my wife and out local team is small, only a few hundred members, but it's growing every day.

[Kaiser7 33]

I'm very wary about this stuff since I almost got suckered into this "internship" with South-west Industries, selling books staying at a host family. They neglected to mention that I had to front the books upfront, and I was on the hook for whatever I didn't sell. Thank God my friend Rosati had looked it up, otherwise we both would have been S-C-R-E-W-E-D.

 

Not saying this is/isn't, but even though I'm perpetually hurting for cash, I have a grave fear of this type of stuff as a result of my past experience. That's why I stick to my offers of doing odd-jobs, and working my minimum wage retail job.

[hd2000fxdl 422]

I'm very wary about this stuff since I almost got suckered into this "internship" with South-west Industries, selling books staying at a host family. They neglected to mention that I had to front the books upfront, and I was on the hook for whatever I didn't sell. Thank God my friend Rosati had looked it up, otherwise we both would have been S-C-R-E-W-E-D.

 

Not saying this is/isn't, but even though I'm perpetually hurting for cash, I have a grave fear of this type of stuff as a result of my past experience. That's why I stick to my offers of doing odd-jobs, and working my minimum wage retail job.

 

Fully understand and agree, there are a lot of them things out there, Pyramids (have no actual product) MLM's etc, but this is a product with a twist if you just don't want to do just the travel side of it travel, thats it.

 

Remember, anyone can sign up for just the Preferred Customer, all that is, is a different booking engine that may save you money on travel, cars, hotels etc and it's free, so nothing lost, just another option to Orbits, and the others.

 

Really, for the business side, I am really looking for people who see it for not it will cost them 366 buck to have their own business, but people who see in 30 days or less can get all their money back and put a couple hundred bucks in their pocket and have the product free for life and then the income potential to be blunt about it. This is after all as far as the business side of it is concerned is not a get quick rich scheme.

[bhunted 887]

I dunno.. There are pyramid scams that have products out there. Classic examples are Herbal Life, Amway, etc...

My dad did Amway years ago and I did HL.... And while you can make a few bux, you have to literally spend thousands to get to first base. I know for a fact that my dad and I fought tooth and nail till I refused to talk to him for months. He was literally trying to jam the crap down my throat. On my end, I tried selling my stock which I couldn't give away. Got stuck with almost all of it. Got soo pist I said screw it. The product s good, but nobody will fall prey out f fear of being hornswaggled. The only people that were making money were the ones landing new sales people under them. Even if you sold nothing, they got percentages of your first stock purchase. Get enough people under you and you never have to sell anything.

 

I'm not saying this is like that. But I just wanted to mention that pyramid scams can have products.

 

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[Ray Ray 3,566]

This thread makes me

[RubberBullets 65]

"I sell you the filters, plus the licenses to sell the filters..Then you find 10 people, and sell THEM the licenses and the filters.."

 

-King of Queens

 

 

[bhunted 887]

Bingo!

 

"I sell you the filters, plus the licenses to sell the filters..Then you find 10 people, and sell THEM the licenses and the filters.."

 

-King of Queens

 

 

 

 

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[hd2000fxdl 422]

No problems guys, all who signed up as a Preferred Member, cool, hope you get to save a few bucks, well actually a lot of bucks but do shop around.

 

For those that warn me of loosing my money, heck It cost me a total of $366 bucks to start this, I made all that back an plenty more and have the services free for life so I don't think I'm going to do to bad, I call that a Win Win.

 

Now do I expect to match my yearly salary monthly, Not this year or next, but I'll bet I do by my target retirement date of 4/1/2016 so we will see.

 

You want to know more, ask, if not don't, easy as that, juts posted an opportunity for any who might want to check it out, nothing more nothing less.

[mipafox 438]

I know we don't have reputation points anymore but can we come up with some sort of Amway/Pyramid/Social Security/Trapezoid/Heaven's Gate tag to warn new users?

[bhunted 887]

No disrespect there bro. And good luck in your endeavor, and anyone else willing to give it a shot. It's just some of us have bad tastes in our mouths from past experiences. At least I do... Not everyone can afford a shot at chance. If so, I'd hit the casinos when I expected to lose and at least have fun...

 

No problems guys, all who signed up as a Preferred Member, cool, hope you get to save a few bucks, well actually a lot of bucks but do shop around.

 

For those that warn me of loosing my money, heck It cost me a total of $366 bucks to start this, I made all that back an plenty more and have the services free for life so I don't think I'm going to do to bad, I call that a Win Win.

 

Now do I expect to match my yearly salary monthly, Not this year or next, but I'll bet I do by my target retirement date of 4/1/2016 so we will see.

 

You want to know more, ask, if not don't, easy as that, juts posted an opportunity for any who might want to check it out, nothing more nothing less.

 

 

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[hd2000fxdl 422]

I know we don't have reputation points anymore but can we come up with some sort of Amway/Pyramid/Social Security/Trapezoid/Heaven's Gate tag to warn new users?

 

Dude, when we got rid of the rating system I thing I was just over 400 at the time, as far as me trying to BS people, I'll call BS on that to anyone, and anyone that knows me or has met me I would hope know that.

 

All I do know is most people probably spend more on the cell phone than what it cost to get into this and if you or any one can't see past that or see what it is, that's just fine. All I did say is I presented it wrong, I wanted to just have people check it out, if they like it and want to know more, fine, if not no big deal, I already have enough people I am making money. The only reason I posted again is to try and see if some one would give it another chance. Do I have a personal gain in that, sure do, but so do they. Doesn't matter if they just get into the travel club and just use that and not resell anything, or get int the business side. Either way,I my self and a few other close personal friends and family are here to make sure any one who gets into this makes it. Want to get in fine, but don't say I didn't at least offer the ability for everyone to check it out. That's all I wanted here, but a hint, my license plate will read if available "TOLDUSO". ROLFMAO...

 

 

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[hd2000fxdl 422]

No disrespect there bro. And good luck in your endeavor, and anyone else willing to give it a shot. It's just some of us have bad tastes in our mouths from past experiences. At least I do... Not everyone can afford a shot at chance. If so, I'd hit the casinos when I expected to lose and at least have fun...Sent from John's iPad 2 via Tapatalk HDTypos courtesy Apple...

Well I did make all my money back and then some, but Cool with me man, very cool with me, but even if it didn't work, I'd sure say $366 bucks ain't a whole lot of money, heck we all have probably shot more in ammo on a weekend at matches,,,,, ok maybe just me, but I will say one was static steel and the other was knockdown and I shot 2 guns in static,,, what you all don't miss that much.... LolSent from my iPad using Tapatalk

[hd2000fxdl 422]

Let me ask a question, for the hunters just checking being I don't know.

 

Out in Colorado, an Elk hunt on Unit 62 ( I guess it's supported to be next to 61, is that something special)

 

Anyway would 7 days and 6 nights be over priced at 740 bucks if it included lodging, home cooked meals, draw tags, bull tags ( not sure what that is)

 

Is that a fare price??

 

 

 

 

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[Duppie 73]

Not to rock the boat further but how is World Ventures significantly different from Global Travel Solutions that just got nailed in a anti trust suit in NY, and had to refund a boat load of dues to settle?

With a cursory look it seems to be the same proposed products,offers and structure.

[mipafox 438]

 

 

Dude, when we got rid of the rating system I thing I was just over 400 at the time, as far as me trying to BS people, I'll call BS on that to anyone, and anyone that knows me or has met me I would hope know that.

 

I didn't in any way whatsoever suggest that you are a lier or trying to BS people. I'm just not planning on stopping by to discuss this over pudding.

[hd2000fxdl 422]

Not to rock the boat further but how is World Ventures significantly different from Global Travel Solutions that just got nailed in a anti trust suit in NY, and had to refund a boat load of dues to settle?

With a cursory look it seems to be the same proposed products,offers and structure.

 

No idea, not familiar with GTS, I guess they did something wrong, but Ernest and Young have liked us and have said we were a good company, how much weight the 2nd largest private auditing firm in the world carries, I don't know..

 

 

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[hd2000fxdl 422]

 

I didn't in any way whatsoever suggest that you are a lier or trying to BS people. I'm just not planning on stopping by to discuss this over pudding.

 

Ok, guess I read it wrong, beers on me when we meet..

 

By the way, you ever get out to AZ, when I'm at the house in Scottsdale, I head over to the Scottsdale Gun Club, they have a full auto store right across the walkway you would like, can't remember the name right now but a pretty cool place, especially for people from NJ to check out who don't see a store of full auto or hand guns with silencers all over the place.

 

 

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