Cixelsid 1 Posted March 28, 2013 It seems a recurring theme in getting a permit to purchase or FID card is delays past 30 days which is NJ law. What is an ordinary citizen to do about this? The 30 day law is a joke, and police do not follow it. It seems we are at the whims of the police to provide us with our RIGHTS whenever they feel like getting around to it. Paperwork seems to sit weeks and months on end, they just DON'T CARE. Now even the NICS check is taking a week. This and one gun a month is ridiculous! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bhunted 887 Posted March 28, 2013 Guess you haven't seen or read the plethora of other threads about the same complaints? It seems a recurring theme in getting a permit to purchase or FID card is delays past 30 days which is NJ law. What is an ordinary citizen to do about this? The 30 day law is a joke, and police do not follow it. It seems we are at the whims of the police to provide us with our RIGHTS whenever they feel like getting around to it. Paperwork seems to sit weeks and months on end, they just DON'T CARE. Now even the NICS check is taking a week. This and one gun a month is ridiculous! Sent from John's iPad 2 via Tapatalk HD Typos courtesy Apple... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
East Brunswick Sportsman 4 Posted March 28, 2013 It seems a recurring theme in getting a permit to purchase or FID card is delays past 30 days which is NJ law. What is an ordinary citizen to do about this? The 30 day law is a joke, and police do not follow it. It seems we are at the whims of the police to provide us with our RIGHTS whenever they feel like getting around to it. Paperwork seems to sit weeks and months on end, they just DON'T CARE. Now even the NICS check is taking a week. This and one gun a month is ridiculous! the 30 Day clock does not start until the PD had received all the checks back. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jm1827 284 Posted March 28, 2013 I applied for a change of address on my FID back in early December. I just got off the phone with the NJSP weapons officer and he told me it probably won't be ready for another 3 to 4 months due to the volume. This is absolitely not acceptable. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Howard 538 Posted March 28, 2013 If you don't like it then change it with your VOTE! Its time get rid of all the liberals. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
410guy 5 Posted March 28, 2013 People have challanged the state in court and have lost. We are at the mercy of the liberal regime in NJ when it comes to gun laws. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mx597turbo 0 Posted March 28, 2013 What is an ordinary citizen to do about this? We live in NJ, where less than 10% of the population are gun owners. As such, your two options are to accept it or move to another state. The overwhelming majority in this state are content with the current system, thus you should not expect any changes in your favor. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Soju 153 Posted March 28, 2013 the 30 Day clock does not start until the PD had received all the checks back. False. The 30 Day clock doesn't start at all. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Cixelsid 1 Posted March 28, 2013 We live in NJ, where less than 10% of the population are gun owners. As such, your two options are to accept it or move to another state. The overwhelming majority in this state are content with the current system, thus you should not expect any changes in your favor. They are content when it doesn't infringe on their rights. I get it. God forbid someone infringes their right to vote. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
1LtCAP 4,264 Posted March 28, 2013 perhaps it is time to move across the river, and rent a room. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Pythagoras 2 Posted April 2, 2013 the 30 Day clock does not start until the PD had received all the checks back. False. The 30 Day clock doesn't start at all. Lolz, Bones speaks the truth! Although I must say, Fanwood PD actually did get my pistol permits done within 30 days of receiving the reference forms....this time. I was utterly flabbergasted when I got the call! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Howard 538 Posted April 2, 2013 The Randolph police did my FID and P2P in 28 days, actually 15 days from the time references were returned (Jan/Feb '13). The problem is the new definition of INSTANT NICS which just took me 8 days - and that is not half as bad as some of the stories I have heard. I wonder what would happen if the state was just a few days late in getting out the welfare checks or food stamps? I bet the lame steam media would be all over that, as the "major" cities in NJ all burned and the streets were filled with rioters. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
East Brunswick Sportsman 4 Posted April 2, 2013 False. The 30 Day clock doesn't start at all. If by the 30 day clock does not start at all you mean that the 30 day rule was essentially trashed by the courts, then yes. But the official answer from the Firearms Investigation unit as a clarification of NJAC is that the clock starts once your PD receive all the INFO back. Feel free to call them and find out for yourself. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Cixelsid 1 Posted April 2, 2013 What good is a "rule" that is not followed or enforced? That 30 day rule and $1.00 will get me 4 quarters. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Handyman 5,682 Posted April 2, 2013 If by the 30 day clock does not start at all you mean that the 30 day rule was essentially trashed by the courts, then yes. But the official answer from the Firearms Investigation unit as a clarification of NJAC is that the clock starts once your PD receive all the INFO back. Feel free to call them and find out for yourself. How is it that the Firearms Investigation unit has been given the authority to interpret NJAC? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
East Brunswick Sportsman 4 Posted April 2, 2013 How is it that the Firearms Investigation unit has been given the authority to interpret NJAC? I dont have the case law in front of me, but in a somewhat recent court decision it was held that towns will not be held to the 30 day rule in NJAC. When questioned the NJSP believes the 30 day clock, if it even exists any more, does not begin until all information is returned to the PD. Im not saying I agree with it, but its the hand we're dealt. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Albanian 121 Posted April 2, 2013 I am very lucky I live in a town that is reasonable and the lady who handles it is very nice. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites