dwamp2006 1 Posted February 4, 2014 Thinking about picking one of these up when they become available. what do you think? http://www.thegunbox.com/product.php Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
brocglock23 4 Posted February 4, 2014 This seems to me almost like smart gun technology. Are you willing to bet your life on this at 2am in the morning? Don't get me wrong, seems cool as hell but I think I would rely more on a biometric safe with my finger prints scanned 120 times then this. I can lose the RFID chip but if I lose my fingers I'm going to assume I have bigger problems that a gun won't solve. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Howard 538 Posted February 4, 2014 No way, I don't want to wear a ring or bracelet and worry about it not working. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ogfarmer 138 Posted February 4, 2014 The new Hornady RAPiD-safe is like this but with 5 access ability's. Multiple Access OptionsThe RAPiD™ safe can be opened with the RFID bracelet, credit card, key fob, or with a personally programmed code. It is also accessible with a conventional key lock. http://www.hornady.com/store/RAPiD-Safe Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
brocglock23 4 Posted February 4, 2014 On a side note and just my opinion...... Say we flock to the store to buy these RFID safes. The sales are astronomical and all the gun boards on the internet talk about how great these are and how we would bet our lives on these securing our weapons and being able to access them quickly. Well, next thing you know our country's wonderful lawmakers are trolling the boards saying if you secure your guns this way why not just build it into the gun also. Now we just opened the doors and sealed our fate by supporting and buying these safes. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bhunted 887 Posted February 4, 2014 On a side note and just my opinion...... Say we flock to the store to buy these RFID safes. The sales are astronomical and all the gun boards on the internet talk about how great these are and how we would bet our lives on these securing our weapons and being able to access them quickly. Well, next thing you know our country's wonderful lawmakers are trolling the boards saying if you secure your guns this way why not just build it into the gun also. Now we just opened the doors and sealed our fate by supporting and buying these safes. You are already late to the party. They have built them into guns already. http://money.cnn.com/2014/01/29/technology/innovation/smart-gun/ And especially this... http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2550458/Companys-James-Bond-style-smart-gun-fired-owner.html Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
brocglock23 4 Posted February 4, 2014 You are already late to the party. They have built them into guns already. http://money.cnn.com/2014/01/29/technology/innovation/smart-gun/ And especially this... http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2550458/Companys-James-Bond-style-smart-gun-fired-owner.html I know they already have created smart guns. What I'm saying is there has been strong opposition from the gun community saying "no way" to these "smart gun". Buying these safes would be hypocritical on our part. If we buy these safes, we will be saying we support the technology and trust it in securing our arms indirectly. I believe that would be the push our government would need to create laws in actually requiring RFID technology built into our weapons directly. I hope I was more clear this time. Accepting this technology in safes does not help us. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bhunted 887 Posted February 4, 2014 I know they already have created smart guns. What I'm saying is there has been strong opposition from the gun community saying "no way" to these "smart gun". Buying these safes would be hypocritical on our part. If we buy these safes, we will be saying we support the technology and trust it in securing our arms indirectly. I believe that would be the push our government would need to create laws in actually requiring RFID technology built into our weapons directly. I hope I was more clear this time. Accepting this technology in safes does not help us. I understand what you meant. Read the whole last link/article. Besides, they already are pushing for it. It's been on the NJ books for awhile and as soon as it's proven ready, they will move forward with it. Just don't think creating sales for these gun boxes, (which I think are useless), will persuade them any more because they are already hell bent on it. That last article shows they are even closer to being ready. Sent from my iPad 2 using T2 Pro Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
magnawing 5 Posted February 4, 2014 I don't want anything that is going to rely on electricity for me to access my guns. It has a battery backup but when the battery runs out ??????? As for biometrics, bloody hands? dirty hands? cuts? I'll stick with a good old fashioned key lock...besides, RFID & GPS allows for tracking by numerous entities that I may not want to know the whereabouts of my guns. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Handyman 5,682 Posted February 4, 2014 I don't want anything that is going to rely on electricity for me to access my guns. It has a battery backup but when the battery runs out ??????? As for biometrics, bloody hands? dirty hands? cuts? I'll stick with a good old fashioned key lock... Even better, good old-fashioned simplex push button lock... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
raz-0 1,259 Posted February 4, 2014 Oh yeah, nothing like good old aluminum to keep people out. I mean a teenager with a $7 hacksaw might have to work at that for 10-15 minutes... well beyond their attention span. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Handyman 5,682 Posted February 4, 2014 Oh yeah, nothing like good old aluminum to keep people out. I mean a teenager with a $7 hacksaw might have to work at that for 10-15 minutes... well beyond their attention span. You don't need a hacksaw, just a special screwdriver: Failsafe in case of Electronic Failure A "Fail Safe" has been implemented into the GunBox. A small unique safety screw can be removed using a special tool which will manually open the Gunbox in the event the electronics fail. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
raz-0 1,259 Posted February 4, 2014 You don't need a hacksaw, just a special screwdriver: Failsafe in case of Electronic Failure A "Fail Safe" has been implemented into the GunBox. A small unique safety screw can be removed using a special tool which will manually open the Gunbox in the event the electronics fail. SO I need the $4 security bit kit form harbor freight? This thing gets better and better every time I encounter it. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Newtonian 453 Posted February 4, 2014 I can picture the scenario. It's 3am and some assholes are breaking in. I awaken, still feeling the effects of Ole Tennis Shoe bourbon from the night before. "Duhhh, now is it my index finger or my pinkie?" Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Pythagoras 2 Posted February 5, 2014 I guess it's cool, and I admire it from the 'because we can' perspective, but I just don't see the point. If you're awake, you should be carrying it on your person.* If you're asleep, it should be under your pillow. If you leave the house, then you either carry it because you're in a free state or you put it in the safe because - you're out of the house, so it doesn't matter if it's "inaccessible" *If you are morally opposed to home carry as some people are, then concealment furniture is far better. Skip the fragile tech, AND unauthorized persons have no idea it's there. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dwamp2006 1 Posted February 5, 2014 All very good points. I think I'll just go with a push button. Cheaper and more effective. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sota 1,191 Posted February 5, 2014 I have the HF security bit set. it still didn't have a screw bit I need to fix a rotating Christmas tree stand. Who's to say it has the "special" bit for this box. Not saying it's the greatest thing in the world, but I've seen far worse. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mge_1 2 Posted March 14, 2014 Wow this is nice! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ogfarmer 138 Posted March 14, 2014 The new Hornady RAPiD-safe is like this but with 5 access ability's. Multiple Access OptionsThe RAPiD™ safe can be opened with the RFID bracelet, credit card, key fob, or with a personally programmed code. It is also accessible with a conventional key lock. http://www.hornady.com/store/RAPiD-Safe this is better Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Handyman 5,682 Posted March 14, 2014 Did you see the disclaimer at the bottom of the rapid safe page? "Do not store loaded firearms in any safe." WTF? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sota 1,191 Posted March 16, 2014 this is better maybe. but goddamn it's FUGLY. looks like it hit every ugly stick on its way down out of the ugly tree. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ogfarmer 138 Posted March 16, 2014 yes ugly but more features to open it then relying on just rfid and a screw that you can remove with a tool. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites