Storage of Firearms

[njpilot 671]

I am looking to purchase a safe for my pistols and future rifles and shotguns. I don't have room in the house to mount a tall gunsafe, so I am looking to put it in the garage. Where are your safes located? Would there be a problem with the garage during the hot, humid summers and cold winters? Do you need to change lubricant in the winter time? Thanks.

[NJChiroDoc 0]

In the garage bolted to the floor and welded to the wall.

[Fishpaw 17]

FYI .......There is no sales tax on gun safes in NJ. ...Also you can get a good deal on a safe on craigslist....

 

http://www.njleg.state.nj.us/9899/Bills ... 421_f1.pdf

 

FISCAL NOTE

ASSEMBLY, No. 2421

STATE OF NEW JERSEY

208th LEGISLATURE

DATED: MAY 3, 1999

BILL SUMMARY

Assembly Bill No. 2421 of 1998 allows an exemption from the

sales and use tax for sales of firearm vaults providing secure and safe

storage for firearms.

AGENCY COMMENTS

The Department of Treasury estimates that this bill would cost the

State approximately $500,000 in reduced State sales tax revenue

during the remainder of fiscal year 1999 and approximately $1,500,000

each year thereafter. The New Jersey State Police report

approximately 70,000 over-the-counter purchases of firearms and

30,000 casual sales of guns in the State each year. Treasury's estimate

assumes that each of the estimated total of 100,000 firearms sales is

accompanied by the sale of a gun vault, at an average price of $250

per vault. The resulting estimate of $25,000,000 in annual gun vault

sales in New Jersey results in an estimated tax loss of $1,500,000 due

to the sales tax exemption under this bill.

OFFICE OF LEGISLATIVE SERVICES COMMENTS

The Office of Legislative Services (OLS) believes the annual sales

tax revenue losses due to this bill will be significantly less than the

losses estimated by the Treasury. While the OLS accepts the

Treasury's estimate of 100,000 annual firearms sales in the State, it is

unlikely that each of those sales will be accompanied by the sale of a

gun vault. The bill does not require the purchase of a gun vault, but

rather the bill provides a six percent sales price incentive. This

incentive should induce increased annual gun vault sales, but the OLS

believes the number of gun vault sales will be significantly less than the

estimated 100,000 annual firearms sales. In addition, many firearms

are purchased by people who may already own a gun vault, such as

hobbyists and collectors. Since gun vaults are capable of holding more

than one weapon, it is likely that the annual number of gun vault sales

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will be significantly less than the annual number of firearm sales.

The OLS cannot make a precise fiscal estimate of the impact of

this bill because figures on the number of firearm vaults sold in the

State before or after an exemption from the sales and use tax are not

available. However, the OLS notes that every 1,000 firearm vaults

sold could cost the State approximately $15,000 in forgone sales tax

revenue, based on Treasury's estimated average cost of $250 per vault.

This fiscal note has been prepared pursuant to P.L.1980, c.67.

[Mauser88 0]

My 500lb safe is in the garage. It's not going anywhere.

[rscalzo 3]

Just make sure you have a Goldenrod heater in it to displace the humidity.

[Mauser88 0]

Or some desiscant.

[Maksim 1,504]

Or a box of baking soda..

 

But this is a great topic. I want to make sure that it is adressed. Humidity. Bought a near new XD 45gap LE off of my brother, and the case has that moist smell on it, and the gun has a little bit of surface rust?/corrosion on the slide.

 

Dont keep firearms in a humid place. will kill them. I am sure keeping a box of baking soda in the safe, much like the fridge, will get rid of moisture and any smells.

[tbtrout 141]

You also should keep the safe off of an outside wall. That is where the biggest temperature change will occur. If you look at Cabelas, they have a buch of humidity control gadgets.

[ah141nj 0]

I am looking to purchase a safe for my pistols and future rifles and shotguns. I don't have room in the house to mount a tall gunsafe, so I am looking to put it in the garage. Where are your safes located? Would there be a problem with the garage during the hot, humid summers and cold winters? Do you need to change lubricant in the winter time? Thanks.

 

In case you are interested, some Lowes carry the Centurion by Liberty Gun safes. The larger one isnt a bad safe...28'' W x 59.25'' H x 20'' D. 22 long Gun capacity. S&G mechanical lock. $697. Get a Lowers new mover coupon and save 10%.

I know the E Brunswick Lowes on 18 carries it.

[Maksim 1,504]

nice. didnt know lowes carries safes.

 

I am sure there are better lowe's safes. Anyone know the employee discount to lowes? hehe, may be worth getting a job there for a few days to get it.

[tgz13 0]

I can't speak for safes since I only have 1 handgun and a small safe under my bed http://www.sentrysafe.com/products/productDetail.aspx?s=264&WT.si_n=ShoppingCart&WT.si_p=CartView

 

On the humidity front though you can always try Damp Rid or other moisture control products. I use larger containers of Damp Rid in my garage to help try and keep my tools from getting rusty. Works pretty well along with a liberal coating of WD40. In the fire arm case maybe a liberal coating or gun oil, along with the damp rid would work as well.

[njpilot 671]

Thanks for the info guys. Anyone have experience with Stack-on safes? Not the gun cabinets, but the safes. I saw a 16-19 gun safe that I liked because it can be divided for long guns on one side and 4 shelves for storage on the other. I don't have any long guns yet, but looking for an AR15 right now and plan a shotgun in the future, maybe more eventually, BRD, so I think it will be big enough for some time.

[NJ-Tom 4]

njpilot I have a Stack On 28 Gun Total Defense safe, I am pleased with it and I have had no problems with this safe. I bought this safe from Dicks when they had it on sale for $649.00 I used a 10% discount coupon 2 $10.00 point certificates and at that time Dicks was running a rebate of $50.00 on this safe. My total cost was $514.10 (no Tax in NJ). I use a golden rod, a desicant can and a Remington VCI (volatile corrosion inhibitor) to keep my all my guns rust free. The safe is tall enough to fit shotguns with 30" barrels.

[njpilot 671]

Thanks NJ-Tom. The safe I was looking at is at Dick's on sale for $399. I may pick it up. Thanks again.

[djg0770 481]

NJ-Tom, please share with us how you obtain these reward certs and coupons.

 

Regards,

 

-Dan

[njpilot 671]

NJ-Tom, please share with us how you obtain these reward certs and coupons.

 

Regards,

 

-Dan

 

Yeah, that would be good.

[NJ-Tom 4]

Hi Guys. Dicks has a program they call ScoreCard rewards. When you accumulate 300 points they send you a $10.00 certificate. Any purchase qualifies, also they mail special coupons occasionally that award you 50-250 points with a purchase. With kids sporting goods purchases as well as ammo adds up quickly. Check out the website http://www.dickssportinggoods.com/helpd ... oreRewards

[NJ-Tom 4]

By the way for those that have the entertainment book (the one with all discounts and coupons) there are 3 coupons for Dicks $10.00 off $50.00 or more

$15.00 off $75.00 or more

$20.00 off $100.00 or more

I use these coupons when they run there ammo special buy 1 get one 1/2 price, this makes the price of ammo more palatable.

[Scottcba1 8]

FYI Lowes in Toms River stocks two different size Centurion by Liberty safes. The Lowes in Howell only has the larger of the two.

 

-Scott

[njpilot 671]

Thanks for the info Tom