Jon K 32 Posted January 31 Would leave a link but not sure if allowed, but its on Epoch Times, whistleblowers, blowing..... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JohnnyB 4,325 Posted January 31 47 minutes ago, Jon K said: Would leave a link but not sure if allowed, but its on Epoch Times, whistleblowers, blowing..... I could not find it on Epoch but here is a link to another site. https://www.ntd.com/biden-administration-preparing-to-ban-private-gun-sales-whistleblowers_970068.html Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Grima Squeakersen 482 Posted January 31 2 hours ago, Jon K said: Would leave a link but not sure if allowed, but its on Epoch Times, whistleblowers, blowing..... Another link: ATF preparing to regulate private gun sales with background check, whistleblower group alleges - Just The News and here is a link to the Empower Oversight FOIA request for any official records pertaining to this ban: Draft Ruling Banning Private Sale of Firearms Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CMJeepster 2,778 Posted February 1 Moot point here in Jersey. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
njJoniGuy 2,131 Posted February 1 3 hours ago, CMJeepster said: Moot point here in Jersey. Just an example of the Florio Effect. It's when a screwed-up Legislature, Executive and Judicial systems set a really REALLY bad example the whole nation follows. 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Grima Squeakersen 482 Posted February 1 8 hours ago, CMJeepster said: Moot point here in Jersey. Private gun sales are banned here, even with the intercession of an FFL? I have sold a couple, fairly recently, but I used an on-line firearms marketplace that is also an FFL, because they made what I thought was a reasonable offer, and I figured it would save me some red tape. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
b47356 21 Posted February 2 20 minutes ago, Grima Squeakersen said: Private gun sales are banned here, even with the intercession of an FFL? I have sold a couple, fairly recently, but I used an on-line firearms marketplace that is also an FFL, because they made what I thought was a reasonable offer, and I figured it would save me some red tape. How can you call it a "private sale" when it has to go through an FFL? 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
father-of-three 243 Posted February 2 2 hours ago, Grima Squeakersen said: Private gun sales are banned here, even with the intercession of an FFL? I have sold a couple, fairly recently, but I used an on-line firearms marketplace that is also an FFL, because they made what I thought was a reasonable offer, and I figured it would save me some red tape. My long guns were private sale purchases in Pennsylvania. No immediate background check required, no FFL required. Only the one used to get my license to carry firearms. The experience is truly is a banquet of freedom not tasted in this state. 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mr.Stu 1,922 Posted February 2 11 hours ago, father-of-three said: My long guns were private sale purchases in Pennsylvania. No immediate background check required, no FFL required. Only the one used to get my license to carry firearms. The experience is truly is a banquet of freedom not tasted in this state. Unless you were a resident of PA at the time, that would have been an illegal transfer under Federal law. All inter-state transfers have to go through an FFL. For long guns that can be an FFL in either State. For handguns it must be an FFL in the receiving person's home State. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
njJoniGuy 2,131 Posted February 2 13 hours ago, father-of-three said: My long guns were private sale purchases in Pennsylvania. No immediate background check required, no FFL required. Only the one used to get my license to carry firearms. The experience is truly is a banquet of freedom not tasted in this state. Your FFL-free transfer (as a resident of PA selling a long arm to another PA resident) will soon be a thing of the past, as your Governor Josh Shapiro hates guns in the hands of the unanointed. Though the events of October 7 may have changed his personal beliefs since that date. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
leahcim 680 Posted February 2 1 hour ago, njJoniGuy said: Your FFL-free transfer (as a resident of PA selling a long arm to another PA resident) will soon be a thing of the past, as your Governor Josh Shapiro hates guns in the hands of the unanointed. Though the events of October 7 may have changed his personal beliefs since that date. Or already is a thing of the past for this guy: https://lancasteronline.com/news/local/lawyers-for-amish-farmer-charged-with-selling-guns-without-a-license-claim-law-vague-1st/article_9a57df2e-bde9-11ed-8d22-8f0ba0f857de.html Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
leahcim 680 Posted February 2 Or this guy, just trying to sell meat and milk products: https://lancasteronline.com/news/local/lancaster-county-farmer-amos-miller-feds-reach-agreement-concerning-food-safety-fines/article_f66f67d6-7fe2-11ed-8964-1b10c09e960b.html Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
father-of-three 243 Posted February 2 3 hours ago, Mr.Stu said: Unless you were a resident of PA at the time, that would have been an illegal transfer under Federal law. All inter-state transfers have to go through an FFL. For long guns that can be an FFL in either State. For handguns it must be an FFL in the receiving person's home State. I was, and will soon be again! 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
father-of-three 243 Posted February 2 2 hours ago, njJoniGuy said: Your FFL-free transfer (as a resident of PA selling a long arm to another PA resident) will soon be a thing of the past, as your Governor Josh Shapiro hates guns in the hands of the unanointed. Though the events of October 7 may have changed his personal beliefs since that date. We'll see. The Pennsylvania does have a hard time electing Republican governors. Fortunately, the Rs still have the Senate and the Ds only have a 1 seat House majority. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
father-of-three 243 Posted February 2 1 hour ago, leahcim said: Or already is a thing of the past for this guy: https://lancasteronline.com/news/local/lawyers-for-amish-farmer-charged-with-selling-guns-without-a-license-claim-law-vague-1st/article_9a57df2e-bde9-11ed-8d22-8f0ba0f857de.html Here's the latest I could find. There are some gray areas, to put it lightly, including how "profit" is defined. This case is not your average private long gun sale though. And Josh Prince is a really good 2a lawyer. https://www.thelancasterpatriot.com/reuben-king-awaits-sentencing-after-being-convicted-of-selling-long-guns/ 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
njJoniGuy 2,131 Posted February 2 1 hour ago, father-of-three said: Here's the latest I could find. There are some gray areas, to put it lightly, including how "profit" is defined. This case is not your average private long gun sale though. And Josh Prince is a really good 2a lawyer. https://www.thelancasterpatriot.com/reuben-king-awaits-sentencing-after-being-convicted-of-selling-long-guns/ https://www.thelancasterpatriot.com/reuben-king-sentenced-with-probation-fine/ Though he had to forfeit all the guns that were seized, and his Federal conviction stands, Reuben King avoids any prison time. 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
45Doll 5,877 Posted February 2 625 guns is quite a personal collection. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CMJeepster 2,778 Posted February 2 18 minutes ago, 45Doll said: 625 guns is quite a personal collection. Pizza Bob laughs at his "collection." Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JohnnyB 4,325 Posted February 2 54 minutes ago, 45Doll said: 625 guns is quite a personal collection. He must be new to the hobby! He only had 10,500 rounds of ammo, 16 rounds per gun! Proves that he's new to the game! 1 2 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Grima Squeakersen 482 Posted February 3 On 2/1/2024 at 7:13 PM, b47356 said: How can you call it a "private sale" when it has to go through an FFL? You are correct. Guess I've been in this damned state for too long, I must be getting brainwashed. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Displaced Texan 11,750 Posted February 3 On 2/2/2024 at 3:56 PM, JohnnyB said: He must be new to the hobby! He only had 10,500 rounds of ammo, 16 rounds per gun! Proves that he's new to the game! 1 2 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
45Doll 5,877 Posted Tuesday at 01:40 PM The new ATF rule will go a long way to helping Brandon out. ATF Rule Change Creates a Trap for the Unwary › American Greatness (amgreatness.com) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites