bbk 188 Posted September 26, 2010 I want to ring the gong, but am not sure where to start. I want a plate that can handle center-fire rifle shooting. I would use the plate at a range like Range 14 (where I would put it out at 200yd) for reference. What kind of steel should I be looking for? What are some reputable names? Could I just go to a scrap yard or hardware store? One of the names I've seen in passing is actiontarget.com. They sell plates and stands, etc... for Range 14, would I need to utilize a stand or could I just prop it up on the ground near the berm? I ask because I saw some options at Action Target that didn't seem too bad: http://www.shopactio...ice-target.html and http://www.shopactio...heavy-duty.html Also, I was thinking of using 'Caution' tape to mark it (last time out, I remember I could hardly see Lunker's plate out there in the overcast/rain). I have it in yellow lying around-- any better colors? Thanks for any suggestions. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MidwestPX 172 Posted September 26, 2010 What are you chucking at the steel? Rimfire, centerfire pistol, centerfire rifle or some mix of these? If you're going to be shooting CFP, I highly suggest a 3/8" (minimum thickness) AR400 grade steel. This target should handle everything up to .41/.44 mag without cratering. If you're going to be shooting centerfire rifle, you need AR500 steel. Anything less will crater and not last long at all. A critical aspect to look at is how as it cut? Plasma cutting, if done incorrectly, can screw up the temper near the edges of plate, making it less durable. I highly suggest something cut with a waterjet. That brings me to my recommendation. Contact Ryan at Big Dog Steel (he goes by osuarchitect on Snipers Hide) and talk to him. Great prices, shipping, and a good guy to support. 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ray Ray 3,566 Posted September 26, 2010 do you have a link Ty? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bbk 188 Posted September 26, 2010 Just checked Big Dog Steel out (http://www.bigdogsteel.com/). I really like their targets (esp coming with mounting holes if need be), and the prices are very competitive (their prices include shipping). Thanks for sharing, Ty, pretty sure I found what I was looking for Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Redfish62 1 Posted September 26, 2010 Just checked Big Dog Steel out (http://www.bigdogsteel.com/). I really like their targets (esp coming with mounting holes if need be), and the prices are very competitive (their prices include shipping). Thanks for sharing, Ty, pretty sure I found what I was looking for +1 plus I really like the 12x12 skull target. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Babaganoosh 192 Posted September 26, 2010 Those look sweet Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Babaganoosh 192 Posted September 26, 2010 Skull target? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Redfish62 1 Posted September 26, 2010 Skull target? http://www.bigdogste...om/fotast1.html Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Babaganoosh 192 Posted September 26, 2010 http://www.bigdogste...om/fotast1.html Weird, it says skull can be purchased seperatly but I dont see it anywhere Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MidwestPX 172 Posted September 26, 2010 Ryan's targets are also waterjet cut so the temper is consistent, edge to edge. I've got four targets from him and couldn't be happier. My 155gr AMAX over 46.2gr of Win748 result in a muzzle velocity of 3000fps (on average) from my 5R and the steel targets I bought from him show 0 physical deformation. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Redfish62 1 Posted September 26, 2010 Weird, it says skull can be purchased seperatly but I dont see it anywhere I sent them an email for the cost. I will post the answer when they send it. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ray Ray 3,566 Posted September 26, 2010 redfish, maybe a group by? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Babaganoosh 192 Posted September 26, 2010 Cool thanks, gonna order some on payday! Friday Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bbk 188 Posted September 26, 2010 From what it says, you can discuss/order custom targets with them-- which would be interesting... maybe get a NJGF themed steel plate And yea, Ty, I read more about the waterjet process, and I didn't realize the difference it could make. I'm pretty sure I'm going to inquire about the 12''x12'' square targets, and maybe get a stand for good measure (since its a pretty reasonable price). Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Redfish62 1 Posted September 26, 2010 redfish, maybe a group by? Ray, I will respond to the email they send with the cost for the Skull target with a quote for a possible group buy. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dajonga 397 Posted September 26, 2010 Would weight lifting plates work? I got a whole mess of em left in the basememt when we bought our house. They are about 3,5, 7, and 12 inches across. Kinda heavy (duh), but are they made from pot metal or real steel? I figure I could hang em up from a cross bar. btw, shooting with .22, .38 and 9mm. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Babaganoosh 192 Posted September 26, 2010 Would weight lifting plates work? I got a whole mess of em left in the basememt when we bought our house. They are about 3,5, 7, and 12 inches across. Kinda heavy (duh), but are they made from pot metal or real steel? I figure I could hang em up from a cross bar. btw, shooting with .22, .38 and 9mm. I bet they would spin around a lot and prob ricochet but never tried it so cant't say for sure. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Krdshrk 3,878 Posted September 26, 2010 Do you know if anything can take a 7.62x54R Round? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MidwestPX 172 Posted September 27, 2010 Do you know if anything can take a 7.62x54R Round? A 3/8" AR500 steel plate can absorb a .50BMG hit at 100 yards and warp slightly. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MidwestPX 172 Posted September 27, 2010 Would weight lifting plates work? I got a whole mess of em left in the basememt when we bought our house. They are about 3,5, 7, and 12 inches across. Kinda heavy (duh), but are they made from pot metal or real steel? I figure I could hang em up from a cross bar. btw, shooting with .22, .38 and 9mm. No, your weights are likely lead or other soft, cheap metal. Steel by comparison is expensive so not a good choice for weight lifting equipment. Being made of soft material, your weights will not hold up for very long against rounds of any time. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ray Ray 3,566 Posted September 27, 2010 Ray, I will respond to the email they send with the cost for the Skull target with a quote for a possible group buy. Okay, keep me (and us) posted. A group buy can really bring costs down. And i know the Fort Dix and Old Bridge range users will want in on this. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jon 264 Posted September 27, 2010 I would be in for a GB Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Redfish62 1 Posted September 27, 2010 Here is the response from Ryan at www.bigdogsteel.com for the cost of the skull targets including folding stands, chains, mounting hardware, and stencil. I am waiting for Ryan's response about a group buy and have invited him to check out the forum. I also let Ryan know that it was Ty from Midwest PX that recommended his company. I currently have both 3/8" and 1/2" thick 12" Skulls in stock. The stand and skull packages come with come with chains, mounting hardware and paper skull template for use as a stencil. The 3/8" thick skull and stand package would be $150 shipped and the 1/2" would be $165 shipped. I can take paypal or money order/cashier's check. Please make checks out to Big Dog Steel. Paypal address is [email protected]. Please add 3% for the transaction fees. Shipping address is: PO Box 92 Saint Marys, OH 45885 Please include your mailing address, Sniper's Hide Alias and the items ordered in the envelope or paypal comments. Thanks! -Ryan Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Krdshrk 3,878 Posted September 27, 2010 How about regular square steel plates or ISPC style ones? I saw he has a reactive target as well - it goes down then pops right back up too! Price on that? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
coldsolderjoint 84 Posted September 27, 2010 I got mine from wideners. They are 1/2" 500 Brinell. I got the 16x9 shoulette, and (2) 5 inch squares. Pricey, but they hold up well. We keep shooting the **** out of the target stands.. I need to make up a new design. Stationary with .30-06 HXP at 100 yards, just barely can see the mark. When I could keep it swinging, didn't leave a mark. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JonF 79 Posted September 27, 2010 A bunch of us bought the wideners plates and have been using them regularly with no issue. I personally use mine at six at 200 yds with everything from 22 to 7.62x54, 8mm Mauser and 7.5 Swiss and the plate is still totally flat after hundreds of rounds. I have to repaint it with a visible color after a few dozen shots since the splatter scrapes the paint away but the steel doesn't so much as even dent. At the same yardage and same calibers, my old 1" mild steel target craters and dents with only 7.62x25 and the bigger calibers were tearing it to shreds. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
coldsolderjoint 84 Posted September 27, 2010 A bunch of us bought the wideners plates and have been using them regularly with no issue. I personally use mine at six at 200 yds with everything from 22 to 7.62x54, 8mm Mauser and 7.5 Swiss and the plate is still totally flat after hundreds of rounds. I have to repaint it with a visible color after a few dozen shots since the splatter scrapes the paint away but the steel doesn't so much as even dent. At the same yardage and same calibers, my old 1" mild steel target craters and dents with only 7.62x25 and the bigger calibers were tearing it to shreds. Can you post a pic of how you have it held up? I know i seen it before, but can't really search since the new system here. I've shot 2x4's in half, chain in half, rebar in half, tow straps shredded.. I need a target stand made of of the same steel the target is :-P Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ray Ray 3,566 Posted September 27, 2010 Redfish, was that a price for 1 target or a package of targets? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Redfish62 1 Posted September 28, 2010 Redfish, was that a price for 1 target or a package of targets? That was for 1 skull target and 1 folding stand with mounting hardware. One price was for a 3/8" skull target and the other was for a 1/2" skull target. The folding stands are $65.00 shipped so you can do the math for the price of the skull targets. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites