Tom-NJ2AS 31 Posted November 7, 2010 I know i should search, but the wife is working and i have 2 little monsters crawling on me Can i just keep my ammo in the vehicle if it is locked up, ot is that a nono. I bought the midway range bag. Any tips on using that for the pistol while traveling. Looking for a way to lock it. What does everyone store there ammo in. i have an ammo can, but it doesn't seem to be able to throw a lock on it thanks Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Malsua 1,422 Posted November 7, 2010 I know i should search, but the wife is working and i have 2 little monsters crawling on me Can i just keep my ammo in the vehicle if it is locked up, ot is that a nono. I bought the midway range bag. Any tips on using that for the pistol while traveling. Looking for a way to lock it. What does everyone store there ammo in. i have an ammo can, but it doesn't seem to be able to throw a lock on it thanks Legally, there's no issue keeping ammo in the car unless it is hollow point. I wouldn't do it because of the heat. I use ammo cans for my ammo. You can rig up locks for some of them. It can also be done on the ones with the small hole in the front you just have to rig it differently. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mcbethr 42 Posted November 7, 2010 Like Malsua said... there are no legal issues keeping ammunition in your car. When I'm picking up ammo from Dicks, I usually just throw it in the trunk and lock the trunk. When I travel to the range, I put my ammo in a Sentry petty cash box that I got from Officemax. The box will fit about 6 boxes of Remington Gun Club loads, and I don't shoot more than 6 rounds of skeet at a time anyway. I'd say it will fit 800 rounds of 9mm if you consolidate the boxes. I think the cashbox was about $20. Using a lockable cashbox for ammo might be going overboard, but it can't hurt. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
PK90 3,573 Posted November 7, 2010 I don't think heat or cold affect ammo. How did the armed forces keep their ammo cool in Baghdad and warm in Bastogne. I think the humidity is the killer. 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Malsua 1,422 Posted November 7, 2010 I don't think heat or cold affect ammo. How did the armed forces keep their ammo cool in Baghdad and warm in Bastogne. I think the humidity is the killer. I agree. I suppose I could have put "Environment" being harsh. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JimmyAGR 54 Posted November 7, 2010 I use the Cabela's dry storage box, it has a place for a lock. http://www.cabelas.com/product/Cabelas-Dry-Storage-Box/728489.uts?Ntk=AllProducts&searchPath=%2Fcatalog%2Fsearch.cmd%3Fform_state%3DsearchForm%26N%3D0%26Ntk%3DAllProducts%26Ntt%3Ddry%2Bbox%26x%3D0%26y%3D0&Ntt=dry+box Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Old School 611 Posted November 7, 2010 I don't think heat or cold affect ammo. How did the armed forces keep their ammo cool in Baghdad and warm in Bastogne. I think the humidity is the killer. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
tony357 386 Posted November 7, 2010 I just put it in the back of the truck, also put it in my side bins of the utility body but it seems to stay their and never come out once in their until it is all shot up.. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
tbtrout 141 Posted November 7, 2010 During hunting season my ammo never leaves my truck. There have been times where I find a box or two when cleaning out the fishing stuff for the next hunting season. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
tony357 386 Posted November 7, 2010 During hunting season my ammo never leaves my truck. There have been times where I find a box or two when cleaning out the fishing stuff for the next hunting season. yep, thats what im talking about... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Pizza Bob 1,488 Posted November 7, 2010 Temperature can affect ammo performance. Generally, for each degree above the temperature that the ammo was loaded for, you can experience an increase in velocity of 1.7 fps. So if the ammo is loaded for an average temperature of 72 degrees and it is left in the sunlight to the point where, internally, it reaches 130 degrees (quite realistic) , that is a nominal increase in velocity of 99 fps. Of course the velocity increase is a result of increased pressure. SAAMI specs allow for these kind of temperature variances, so not much channce of a KB - but if you handload (especially using old load data) the chances would be greatly increased. To really complicate matters, with some powders, the reverse is true - pressure spikes as the temperature drops. More common though is the higher temperature / higher pressure scenario described above. Paul, I did find reference to military ammunition being loaded based on the theater of operations. The reference was WWII and it was Norma ammunition loaded for use in the arctic climates of Scandanavia. I don't know if ammo bound for the sandbox is loaded specifically for those temperature extremes and doubtful that would be disclosed. I do agree with Paul in that humidity is probably the larger factor in ammunition performance, when it is stored in an uncontrolled environment. Adios, Pizza Bob Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest megaman Posted November 7, 2010 During hunting season my ammo never leaves my truck. There have been times where I find a box or two when cleaning out the fishing stuff for the next hunting season. Same here! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JimmyAGR 54 Posted November 7, 2010 Wish I felt that comfortable living in this state. I went shooting at a match, forgot I had a mag in my pocket on the way home. Pulled over as soon as possible to throw it in the lock box. I hope to someday not even think about things like that..... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ChrisJM981 924 Posted November 8, 2010 Wish I felt that comfortable living in this state. I went shooting at a match, forgot I had a mag in my pocket on the way home. Pulled over as soon as possible to throw it in the lock box. I hope to someday not even think about things like that..... Can I leave loaded mags in a locked box on the way to the range? If I buy ammo it goes on the back seat in the bag it came in. I have not found anything in chapter 39 or 58 that says ammunition has to be locked up unless also transporting a firearm without a lockable trunk. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Pew Pew Plates 358 Posted November 8, 2010 temp doesnt reduce ammo longevity, it is significant temp changes. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bry@n 195 Posted November 8, 2010 Can I leave loaded mags in a locked box on the way to the range? If I buy ammo it goes on the back seat in the bag it came in. I have not found anything in chapter 39 or 58 that says ammunition has to be locked up unless also transporting a firearm without a lockable trunk. It is my understanding that a loaded mag, is a loaded weapon. I don't think it matters if it is locked up Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bry@n 195 Posted November 8, 2010 I generally use the cabelas dry box. I don't use a lock because the snap ring technically locks the case. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ChrisJM981 924 Posted November 10, 2010 It is my understanding that a loaded mag, is a loaded weapon. I don't think it matters if it is locked up Even if locked in a separate box? That's ridiculous. Oh well I have a speed loader anyway. I was just trying to save my mag springs from more use. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jon 264 Posted November 10, 2010 It is my understanding that a loaded mag, is a loaded weapon. I don't think it matters if it is locked up Wow. I guess I shouldnt load my mags the night before a steel match anymore.... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
StephanieSeven 70 Posted November 10, 2010 Wow. I guess I shouldnt load my mags the night before a steel match anymore.... j0n....there's got to be a title 39 and 2C book floating around at work. look it up for us would ya? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jon 264 Posted November 10, 2010 j0n....there's got to be a title 39 and 2C book floating around at work. look it up for us would ya? But, then it'll look like I'm actually doing my job at work! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
StephanieSeven 70 Posted November 10, 2010 But, then it'll look like I'm actually doing my job at work! You're right. Disregard. Carry on. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jon 264 Posted November 10, 2010 You're right. Disregard. Carry on. No, no. I could use the brownie points. Looking it up now. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Pizza Bob 1,488 Posted November 10, 2010 I don't think you'll find anything about transporting loaded mags. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
StephanieSeven 70 Posted November 10, 2010 I don't think you'll find anything about transporting loaded mags. If it's law why would it not be covered under the NJ criminal and motor vehicle laws? It's got to be in there, no? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jon 264 Posted November 10, 2010 Nothing I can find in the 2c book makes any mention to loaded magazines. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Pizza Bob 1,488 Posted November 10, 2010 My point was that it is NOT law. Transporting loaded mags is OK - unless you can find a cite that says it's not. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
StephanieSeven 70 Posted November 10, 2010 My point was that it is NOT law. Transporting loaded mags is OK - unless you can find a cite that says it's not. Oh okay. I misunderstood. Nothing I can find in the 2c book makes any mention to loaded magazines. Title 39? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jon 264 Posted November 10, 2010 Oh okay. I misunderstood. Title 39? Will check that momentarily. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
tbtrout 141 Posted November 10, 2010 It is my understanding that a loaded mag, is a loaded weapon. I don't think it matters if it is locked up It is not illegal, It is one of the myths on NJ Gun Laws that has prevailed for a generation or two. passed on by interpretations and opinions, not law. I was brought up with that same understanding but have thankfully been proved wrong by others on this forum. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites