PR-NJ 0 Posted November 29, 2010 The State of New Jersey seems to believe that a collapsible stock confers special powers to a semi-automatic rifle, somehow making it a public menace. Thus, gun enthusiasts in the state are forced to incorporate fixed stocks on their AR-type rifles. I personally have an aversion, however, to pinning (disfiguring) a perfectly good collapsible or folding stock. I thought I'd start a list of commercially available fixed stock offerings. Presumably, these buttstocks are legal in New Jersey. However, please have someone who is very familiar with the laws confirm this before you spend money on a new stock or attach a questionable stock to your AR. The penalties for breaking the law in this area are harsh. (Note - I am not an AR expert - more a neophyte. I'm still in the "research stage" for purchasing my first AR.) I doubt the list is complete. Please add to it, if you see fit. 1. Standard A2 stock, various manufacturers, here’s the Model 1 Sales offering: http://www.model1sales.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=category.display&category_id=465 2. Choate A2, https://secure.riflestock.com/catalog_page_detail.cfm?recordno=5&Product_CatalogID=2982&ProductNumber=16%2D01%2D02&ProductCode=1&ProductSubCodeID=265&NewProduct=0 3. Skeletonized A2, various manufacturers, here’s the DPMS version: http://www.dpmsinc.com/store/products/?prod=467 4. Sully stock, http://www.thedefensiveedge.com/Sully_Stock_p/sully01.htm 5. RRA fixed operator stock, http://www.rockriverarms.com/popup.cfm?type=i&id=products/stck_oper10.gif 6. Vltor Rifle Modstock (according to the manufacturer, only the rifle version is post-ban OK), http://www.vltor.com/rifle-modstock.htm 7. ACE ARFX (other models available), http://riflestocks.com/catalog/product_info.php?cPath=75_77&products_id=189 8. Mako, adjustable cheek mount, http://www.makosecurity.com/Merchant2/merchant.mvc?Screen=PROD&Product_Code=SSR25&Category_Code=_M16Stocks 9. Magpul PRS, http://store.magpul.com/product/MAG307/84 10. Command Arms, http://www.commandarms.com/product.asp?pID=117&cID=57 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Tosser 61 Posted November 29, 2010 Sully Stock.... defensive edge sells/makes them A1 stock Cav arms C2 or C1 stocks Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ray Ray 3,566 Posted November 29, 2010 Sully Stock.... defensive edge sells/makes them A1 stock Cav arms C2 or C1 stocks Do you have links to those stocks? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Tosser 61 Posted November 29, 2010 Cav Arms http://cavalryarms.com/Merchant2/merchant.mvc?Screen=CTGY&Store_Code=CA&Category_Code=AFZ A1 would be a mil-surp item. I didn't realize he had the Sully stock linked... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ray Ray 3,566 Posted November 29, 2010 The only stock in question is the Magpul, which IS NJ legal. The length of the stock is the same, as it doesn't move. The adjustments do NOT make it an adjustible or folding stock. Just so everyone knows. Thanks Tosser. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Tosser 61 Posted November 29, 2010 The only stock in question is the Magpul, which IS NJ legal. The length of the stock is the same, as it doesn't move. The adjustments do NOT make it an adjustible or folding stock. Just so everyone knows. Thanks Tosser. I thought the boys (NJSP) said the PRS is illegal... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
EchoMirage 137 Posted November 29, 2010 10. Command Arms, http://www.commandar...?pID=117&cID=57 this thing looks incredibly complicated Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Regulator72 80 Posted November 29, 2010 Cav Arms http://cavalryarms.com/Merchant2/merchant.mvc?Screen=CTGY&Store_Code=CA&Category_Code=AFZ A1 would be a mil-surp item. I didn't realize he had the Sully stock linked... Anyone use one of these? they seem cheap ($$ wise.) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Tosser 61 Posted November 29, 2010 They are solid. I have a cav arms lower which is made from the same material. DSGarms also carrys the cav arms stuff. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ray Ray 3,566 Posted November 30, 2010 I thought the boys (NJSP) said the PRS is illegal... No, because adjustments aren't considered "collapsible or folding". If Caso's brings those stocks in then it's definitly legal. If it's in quesion at all, then Frank won't order it. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JackDaWack 2,895 Posted November 30, 2010 Edit. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Cylinder Head 22 Posted December 3, 2010 I just had my Magpul ACS pinned. It's not like it was made out of unobtanium and cost a mint. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BullzeyeNJ 104 Posted December 3, 2010 Is the pinning permanent or can it be unpinned with hand tools? Just wondering in case you had to adjust the stock for different shooting positions. I just had my Magpul ACS pinned. It's not like it was made out of unobtanium and cost a mint. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Cylinder Head 22 Posted December 3, 2010 Is the pinning permanent or can it be unpinned with hand tools? Just wondering in case you had to adjust the stock for different shooting positions. It's possible to pin the stock in a manner that can be un-done, but mine was pinned and glued and pinned again. It's not going anywhere. I'm going to need a new tube and stock after our state gets its pants sued off over our archaic laws. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest tAKticool Posted December 5, 2010 http://dsgarms.com/ProductInfo/MGACSCOMKITOD.aspx I'm pretty sure I'll be buying this Magpul ACS Package for my new Bushmaster M4AK, what do you guys think? Won't be a big problem to pin it? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bbk 188 Posted December 5, 2010 Ask the previous poster, Cylinder Head, as that is what he went with on his KAC. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
PK90 3,573 Posted December 5, 2010 I pinned mine under the compartments. 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites