Bye-Bye Taurus 28 ga Revolver

[Pizza Bob 1,490]

For those of you that are Judge fans and were chomping at the bit for something with a little bit more ooomph - it looks like you are going to have to put those plans on hold.

 

The BATFE paid a visit to the Taurus booth on the last day of the SHOT show and told them that they consider their new 28 ga revolver a SBS, not a handgun. Taurus has withdrawn it from the market. There still seems to be some question as to whether Taurus is in hot water, dependent on how they declared the gun when it was imported.

 

Adios,

 

Pizza Bob

[tony357 386]

i had heard that in the shotshow vid.. We will have to watch for a write up on it..

[MrP 81]

The BATFE strikes again!

[Malsua 1,422]

Not that I think the ATF is wise, but if this isn't a SBS, what is it?

[Maksim 1,504]

Destructive Device.

[PK90 3,573]

If a 28GA is over one-half inch, it is.

[Pew Pew Plates 358]

.55"!

 

Shame on Taurus for not seeing that one coming...

[robot_hell 72]

No big deal. I'm holding out for the 10ga airweight snubbie anyway.

[Maksim 1,504]

No big deal. I'm holding out for the 10ga airweight snubbie anyway.

 

 

Lol. I bet there is an 8 guage version in the works. =)

[halbautomatisch 60]

Lol. I bet there is an 8 guage version in the works. =)

Better have good heath insurance, I could see a lot of crack wrists if someone tried to shoot something like that.

[Ray Ray 3,566]

Never even understood the gun in the first place.

I'll stick with my 410, as it's good enough for me.

[coldsolderjoint 84]

all they have to do is put a stock and longer barrel on it

[nitrospaz9 10]

SBS??

[tommy3rd 132]

SBS??

i believe it stands for short barreled shotgun.

[Parker 214]

I read a comment on one of the blogs that Taurus intentionally debuted this to one-up the unveiling of S&W's Governor. (Just how could the Taurus attorney's have let this one slip by?) In the software world we would call this vaporware.

 

http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2011/01/25/big-gun-short-lived-taurus-28-gauge-revolver/

[Ray Ray 3,566]

What are the advantages of a 28 gauge shell to a 410 shell?

[XDJohnTact 49]

Post on Gun Broker somewhere said it was back on? BATF said is was OK.

[Pew Pew Plates 358]

What are the advantages of a 28 gauge shell to a 410 shell?

 

 

It's bigger

[Ray Ray 3,566]

It's bigger

 

what kinda loads are in a 28 gauge?

[Pew Pew Plates 358]

what kinda loads are in a 28 gauge?

 

 

It's about %50 more. 1/2oz is the standard target load for 410 and 3/4oz is standard for 28. So I'de assume all types of loads will be roughly %50 more. Just like when the judge came out, there are currently limited (no?) offerings as far as custom defense loads go although just like with the judge once this hits the market im sure all different crazy kinds of 28ga will pop up.

[Ray Ray 3,566]

oh okay, i see what you mean. Yeah, there are some good 410 loads now, especially the winchester PDX1 load.

another question, what is the diameter of a 28 gauge slug?

[Parker 214]

oh okay, i see what you mean. Yeah, there are some good 410 loads now, especially the winchester PDX1 load.

another question, what is the diameter of a 28 gauge slug?

BP offers a "light game" slug for handloading that is .505 in diameter and weighs 183 grs. 3"

 

.410 loads scale up to 11/16 oz. in the 3" shell size while the 2 1/2" shell has traditionally been 1/2 oz. The standard classic 28 ga. load is 3/4 oz., but ammomakers for a few years now have been making 1 oz. loads for the 28. ga. at the behest of hunters looking for improved pattern density with larger shot sizes. But the beauty of the 28 ga. is in the balance of the 3/4 oz. load for its small bore. It can't be made into a 20 ga.

[Ray Ray 3,566]

So make a 500 S&W magnum revolver that can chamber 28 gauge shotgun shells. Wow, that would be cool.

[KpdPipes 388]

Post on Gun Broker somewhere said it was back on? BATF said is was OK.

I think the problem is with the SBS designation.... it doesnt FIT the drfinition of SBS..What I CAN see is it being deemd an AOW...which means $5.00 Tax Stamp as opposed to a $200.00 Tax Stamp Sounds to me like some ATF Weenie stepped on his or her Genitalia at SHOT and overreacted to this.

[Pew Pew Plates 358]

So make a 500 S&W magnum revolver that can chamber 28 gauge shotgun shells. Wow, that would be cool.

 

 

Cant, because the 500 is .50 caliber.... not .55 and anything over .5 from groove to groove is a DD. I think the first desert eagles were illegal because they measured .5" from land to land and slightly over .5 from groove to groove.

 

I have no clue how taurus is getting around that

[Ray Ray 3,566]

Okay, so what handgun caliber is closest to a 28gauge shotgun shell?

[PK90 3,573]

The largest handgun caliber you'll get in the form of a shotshell is in the .45 Long Colt. The CCI Blazer shotshell shows 150 grains of #9 shot at 1,000 ft./sec. You'll get a nasty sting with it, but no killing power.

[Ray Ray 3,566]

I meant if it has to chamber a pistol caliber as well, what would it be?

[Pew Pew Plates 358]

any of the 50's, since thats as big as you can get by law. No more than .500 from groove to groove as I said early.

[Ray Ray 3,566]

any of the 50's, since thats as big as you can get by law. No more than .500 from groove to groove as I said early.

 

You said a 500 mag wouldn't work, so what's the deal?