nj22 2 Posted November 2, 2011 At least I think that's what I'm trying to decide. Still about 3 weeks out on the FID. But why not start shopping? Can't find anywhere in N. Jersey to get my hands on an SP-01. Love the 75b, but am caught up on the claim that the SP-01 is better machined. Any thoughts? It's also heavier, and I'm worried the heavier spring on the SP will be annoying (the slide apparently snaps back if you don't replace it). Then again, I'm open to any and all suggestions. Still thinking sig p226. It's just a little pricey and right hand only. And kind of ugly... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RecessedFilter 222 Posted November 2, 2011 I own a 75b and could not be any happier with it. It is my favorite pistol that will always remain in my gun collection no matter what. Here she is: I love the steel frame and weight and the fact that I can shoot holes inside holes with it. It is very very accurate, and the slide-in-frame design is excellent. I think I shoot it well because of all these reasons combined, WITH the fact that the ergo's are second to none. It fits my hand like a glove, plain and simple. It also helps that in my eyes, it is one of the most aesthetically pleasing pistols around. I also own the 97b, the .45acp big brother of the 75b. AWESOME pistol as well, and the felt recoil feels like a 9mm. In regards to SP01 vs. 75b, I have shot the SP01 before and it was nice, don't get me wrong since I love all CZ's, but I preferred my 75b. They both are very similar, with I believe the SP01 having the stock night sights, rail, and slightly more barrel and weight. The 75b design is so classic and it really is one of the best pistols to date. My vote is for the 75b, but your decision will ride on handling both of them and possibly even shooting both and seeing what is more comfortable and better liking to YOU. P.s. - if you ever wanna shoot my CZ's, feel free to send me a PM. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Pew Pew Plates 358 Posted November 2, 2011 Dont forget the CZ-70 (they run around $150) 25 yards And the CZ82 (about $200) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
nj22 2 Posted November 2, 2011 I'm looking more full size--though those are pretty sweet. Where are you finding these prices? I ask because everyone online seems to think the cz 75b "can be had for a little over $350." But all the shops in NJ either don't have them, or claim they are "expensive because they are hard to get." I can find one out of state, of course, but then tack on shipping and the $75 transfer fee... Thinking of going through the CZ custom shop and getting a trigger job off the bat. Dont forget the CZ-70 (they run around $150) 25 yards And the CZ82 (about $200) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bry@n 195 Posted November 2, 2011 Sig 226 is what I say. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jokerman 2 Posted November 2, 2011 CZ-75B owner here. Terrific firearm--reliable, solid and dead accurate. The only weak point is the guy shooting it, but I'm trying! Also own two CZ long guns, and am saving for a third. They are tops in my book. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
reloaderguy 30 Posted November 2, 2011 Sig 226 is what I say. My CZ'S will run circles around the P226 anyday but I still own both. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
reloaderguy 30 Posted November 2, 2011 Let me give you a little advice from someone who owns a CZ 75B,40P,40B and an SP-01 Shadow Target. The triggers on all CZ'S suck unless they are a Custom Shop gun like my Shadow Target. The triggers are gritty,have excesssive creep and will not get better even with dry firing. I have sent 3 of mine to the CZ Custom Shop for trigger jobs and competition hammer install. Mainspring was replaced with a lower pound as well as extended firing pins which eliminate light primer strikes with reduced mainsprings. The cost to have this done is about $200. When they came back I had 3.5 lb trigger pulls with no grit or creep. The guns had a totally different feel and they all shot better groups. My SP-01 Shadow Target will but 4 through the same hole from a rest at 25 yards. You can buy any CZ and have the Custom Shop do the work which I said will run you around $200. Or you can buy an SP-01 Shadow Target from them for around $1200. http://czcustom.com/CZ-Custom-Pistols.aspx I payed under $1100 because my friend is a dealer and I get it at cost. You will not be disappointed and only if you have the custom work done by them. I would not own another CZ that has not had the custom shop work done. This is what you should get if you can afford it: Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
hd2000fxdl 422 Posted November 2, 2011 Reloaderguy, While mine current CZ is a 75-TS I don;t expect the 75B to have the same trigger out of the box, but I'll tell you the TS's trigger on mine is about 2lbs and very nice, so all CZ's don't need a trigger job. With that said, I am looking looking at the 755 or 85 B and want to shoot both before I commit but thanks for the heads up on these possibly needing some trigger work done to them. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Anselmo 87 Posted November 2, 2011 Just saw an SP-01 at Surplus City in Feasterville, PA. You can't transfer there but you can fondle it and perhaps work out a purchase between them and a NJ FFL. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Steve_G 51 Posted November 2, 2011 Sig 226 is what I say. HK P30L Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Maksim 1,504 Posted November 2, 2011 I would say dont forget EAA, the Tanfoglio Witness guns are CZ clones, at very very reasonable prices. the Price on the guns in the states is half of what they sell for in Europe. Here is my "CZ Inspired" gun. If you want a DA/SA, absolutely look at the Eaa Witness Elite Stock 2, or the Match. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
nj22 2 Posted November 2, 2011 Sadly Reloader, I don't have the money. My budget is <800 inclusive of FFL transfer. That is a mighty handsome gun, however. On a non-decocker variant the custom shop can do a hammer replacement for like 165. They claim that smooths the trigger pull. I assume that's the only trigger job necessary? Not sure if the 75 or 85 needs to have a main spring replacement, since only the sp-01 has the heavier spring for NATO rounds, correct? Since I shoot lefty I'm thinking the 85b for the ambi slide release, and the combat version since it has the overtravel control. Then again, since the safety and mag release are ambi an all of them (correct?) I could save the money and just get the SA 75b with the overtravel control. Or the sp-01. That's still in the running. Too many choices... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
reloaderguy 30 Posted November 3, 2011 Reloaderguy, While mine current CZ is a 75-TS I don;t expect the 75B to have the same trigger out of the box, but I'll tell you the TS's trigger on mine is about 2lbs and very nice, so all CZ's don't need a trigger job. With that said, I am looking looking at the 755 or 85 B and want to shoot both before I commit but thanks for the heads up on these possibly needing some trigger work done to them. I find it hard to believe that that you have a 2 lb trigger on your TS out of the box. In fact I find that impossible unless it is a Custom Shop gun and you had the work done to get to a 2 lb trigger. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
reloaderguy 30 Posted November 3, 2011 Sadly Reloader, I don't have the money. My budget is <800 inclusive of FFL transfer. That is a mighty handsome gun, however. On a non-decocker variant the custom shop can do a hammer replacement for like 165. They claim that smooths the trigger pull. I assume that's the only trigger job necessary? Not sure if the 75 or 85 needs to have a main spring replacement, since only the sp-01 has the heavier spring for NATO rounds, correct? Since I shoot lefty I'm thinking the 85b for the ambi slide release, and the combat version since it has the overtravel control. Then again, since the safety and mag release are ambi an all of them (correct?) I could save the money and just get the SA 75b with the overtravel control. Or the sp-01. That's still in the running. Too many choices... Along with the trigger job which is the installation of the competition hammer. The 13 or 15lb mainspring is $4.00 and the extended firing pin is $20 so why not make the trigger pull even better in SA and DA? I would call and speak to Robert at CZ Custom and he will tell you that those extra things make a world of difference. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
hd2000fxdl 422 Posted November 3, 2011 I find it hard to believe that that you have a 2 lb trigger on your TS out of the box. In fact I find that impossible unless it is a Custom Shop gun and you had the work done to get to a 2 lb trigger. Digital Trigger scale confirmed it, and I know there are a bunch of folks here who have felt the trigger on it that can tell you what they think. I must be lucky and just got one that was just right and I have not taken her apart and done any work on it myself. Even Mike D say don't it was really nice and no need to do any work on it. And no I didn't get it from Angus when I am out there at the folks house either, so no cheating, a true import from Kanz-a** to the PR of NJ Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BigBlueQ 7 Posted November 3, 2011 As of three weeks ago I was having the same exact debate with myself...the 75BD or the SP-01. I ultimately decided on the 75BD, and received it last week. I found a rippin' deal on an "excellent" condition decocker in New Mexico. After I received it last Monday I broke it down, cleaned it, checked the date of manufacture, and realized that it was less than 5 months old, with barely any rounds through it. All for $400. I was as pleased as a pig in spit! After putting a couple hundred rounds down range it was apparent that this was a phenomenal "point and shoot" pistol, so freakin' accurate. I can't really comment on the SP-01, but I'm glad as hell that I got this beauty. Shhh, don't tell my Berettas. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
tbtrout 141 Posted November 4, 2011 I love my 75b. The trigger is better than on my Sig or any Sig I have fired. It is no 1911 trigger but it is not supposed to be. If I were to get another 75 it would be a Single action 75SA. Great pull out of the box. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
nj22 2 Posted November 4, 2011 I am leaning toward the SA. Has the trigger adjustment if I need it and that extended beaver tail is a nice touch. But I'll probably order through the custom shop and get a trigger job right away. It will be cheaper up front than if I do it later, and I'm sure they're the best in the business. I love my 75b. The trigger is better than on my Sig or any Sig I have fired. It is no 1911 trigger but it is not supposed to be. If I were to get another 75 it would be a Single action 75SA. Great pull out of the box. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
hd2000fxdl 422 Posted November 4, 2011 I was originally thinking I wanted the SA model but I want the next CZ I buy to be able to be for Production and Steel in 9mm, so I had to eliminate the 75B-SA from my wish list, don't need another limited or L10 gun right now, key words, right now.. I'm now tossing it up between the 75B and 85B / 85B Combat... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
nj22 2 Posted November 4, 2011 The SA doesn't count as a production gun? I'm now leaning away from the SA because I hear it has a plastic trigger. RE the 85 combat, word on the street is the rear adjustable site is not very durable. But if you want the overtravel adj I don't think you can get it on the regular 85b Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jermz1987 243 Posted November 4, 2011 Here is my SA CZ75b. I never had any issues with it. The trigger is plastic, but its never felt cheap or anything. The trigger pull is very nice out of the box and the gun itself is way more accurate then I am. 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
the_stranger 13 Posted November 8, 2011 I have a CZ-85 Combat. Trigger work and front sight courtesy of cz-custom. I also have two CZ .22's and would like to add a CZ 97 next year. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Maksim 1,504 Posted November 8, 2011 A friend of mine is selling a game ready cz 85 package for a good price if interested. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
hd2000fxdl 422 Posted November 8, 2011 A friend of mine is selling a game ready cz 85 package for a good price if interested. SAO or DA/SA? What's you view on its condition?? Also what model Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Maksim 1,504 Posted November 8, 2011 Cz 85 combat Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
hd2000fxdl 422 Posted November 8, 2011 I'll PM you later have to get my hair cut. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites