TheLugNutZ 21 Posted December 20, 2011 http://www.survivalistboards.com/showthread.php?t=189395 Figured I would share. Pretty interesting... my shtf expirience-wartime OK, i wanna share with you my own experience. (be patient with my English, i am from far away ) I am from Balkan Region, and as some of you may know it was hell here from 92-95, anyway, for 1 whole year i lived and survived in a city of 50 000- 60 000 residents WITHOUT: electricity, fuel,running water,real food distribution, or distribution of any goods, or any kind of organized law or government.The city was surrounded for 1 year and in that city actually it was SHTF situation. We did not have organized army or police force, there was groups of defenders, actually anybody who had a gun, fight for his own house and his own family. Some of us was better prepared, but most of families had food for couple of days, some of us had pistol, few owned AK-47 when all started. Anyway, after one month or two, gangs started with their nasty job,hospital looked like butchery, police force vanished, 80 percent of hospital staff gone home. I was lucky, my family was big in that time (15 members in one big house, 5-6 pistols, 3 Kalashnikov s) so we lived and survived, most of us. I remember US Air force dropped MRE every 10 days (god bless USA for that) as help for surrounded city, it just was not enough.Some of houses had little gardens with some vegetables, most did not. After three months rumors started abouth first deaths from starvation,deaths from low temperatures, we stripped every door , window frame from abandoned houses for heating, i burned all my own furniture for heating, lot of people died from diseases, mostly from bad water (two of my family members), we used rain water for drink, several times i ate pigeons, once i ate rat. Money did not worth sh.. we traded things, black market worked, few examples: for 1 corned beef can you could have woman for couple of hours(sounds bad, but it was reality) i remember, most of that womans were just desperate mothers, candles, lighters,antibiotics,fuel,batteries, rifle ammo and of course food, we fight like animals for that. In situation like that lot of things change, most of people turned to monsters, it was ugly. Strength was in the numbers, if you were alone in the house, you ve been probably robbed and killed, no matter how well armed. Anyway, war ended, again thanks to America (and again god bless USA for that) It is not important witch side had right in that war. It was almost 20 years ago, but believe me, for me it was just like yesterday, i remember everything, and i think i learned a lot. Me and my family are prepared now,i am well armed, stocked and educated. It is not important what going to happen, earthquake,war, tsunami,aliens terrorists, important thing is that something gonna be. And from my expirience, you can not survive alone, strength is in the numbers, be close with your family, prepare with them, choose your friends wisely and prepare with them too. And at the end, this is my first post, and my English is not so good, so don t judge me too hard. Mod Edit: Here is a link to Selco's blog www.shtfschool.com Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bulpup 98 Posted December 20, 2011 Read this http://www.amazon.co.../ref=pd_sim_b_4 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TheLugNutZ 21 Posted December 20, 2011 He goes into more detail in the thread. interesting stuff... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TheLugNutZ 21 Posted December 20, 2011 Read this http://www.amazon.co.../ref=pd_sim_b_4 thanks, ill have to check it out Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dan 177 Posted December 20, 2011 This is key Strength was in the numbers, if you were alone in the house, you ve been probably robbed and killed, no matter how well armed. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Old Glock guy 1,127 Posted December 20, 2011 Quite an interesting read, and that looks like a good thread, although I've only skimmed the surface of its 44 pages. Thanks for posting it. Some of the posters make the point of how we can tend to romanticize a SHTF situation, while the realities of it can be brutal, regardless of one's level of preparation. 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jeklog 7 Posted December 20, 2011 thank you for sharing! i'm glad you and your family made it and sorry for those who did'nt. this could happen anywhere thats why we have to be always prepared. desperate times bring the worst out of the unprepared. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
KpdPipes 388 Posted December 21, 2011 Go to Vice.com and look at their Videos on Liberia and Congo..THAT my friends is SHTF that makes the Balkans look tame (Not to diminish what happened there)..Makes you realize just how Good things really are here 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
tt-33 8 Posted December 21, 2011 good read kinda like the post awhile back about shtf in south america.more and more I feel the need to invest in spam cans Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TheLugNutZ 21 Posted December 21, 2011 This is key I agree Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NJScott 15 Posted December 22, 2011 Go to Vice.com and look at their Videos on Liberia and Congo..THAT my friends is SHTF that makes the Balkans look tame (Not to diminish what happened there)..Makes you realize just how Good things really are here I went and watched the eight (IIRC) part series on Liberia, and it was the most-horrifying sh+t I think I've viewed. You almost have to keep convincing yourself that it is not a movie you're watching, but real life. Those video journalists put together an intriguing and repulsive look at the worst of humanity and the human condition that I've ever seen. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
almiz111 26 Posted December 22, 2011 Oh, this will never happen here. But if it did wouldn't you be concerned about not having a NJ Castle Doctrine? I've been told here don't even discuss breaking the law. That would be irresponsible. Amen. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TheLugNutZ 21 Posted December 22, 2011 Go to Vice.com and look at their Videos on Liberia and Congo..THAT my friends is SHTF that makes the Balkans look tame (Not to diminish what happened there)..Makes you realize just how Good things really are here Ill have to check this out when I get home later. This stuff is very interesting... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DevsAdvocate 112 Posted December 22, 2011 Oh, this will never happen here. But if it did wouldn't you be concerned about not having a NJ Castle Doctrine? I've been told here don't even discuss breaking the law. That would be irresponsible. Amen. I bet that across the country, in all states and towns, folks keep things hidden away that would have them in jail in a heartbeat today in case of a potential crisis tomorrow. Whether it be home-made, unregistered suppressors, magazines (in states which restrict), and even full-autos. Heck, I wouldn't be surprised if folks in this country had their hands on some serious tools... like RPGs or other so-called 'destructive devices'. Quietly hidden away for the 'just in case' moment they are needed. Even if they don't, you can bet that these things will easily become available when 'law and order' takes a break. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DTtuner 21 Posted December 22, 2011 Reading this alot into perspective. Surivability in a SHTF situation has always been on the back of my mind. Seems like no matter how much preparation, it all comes down to surrounding yourself with people you know and trust. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Old Glock guy 1,127 Posted December 22, 2011 I bet that across the country, in all states and towns, folks keep things hidden away that would have them in jail in a heartbeat today in case of a potential crisis tomorrow. Whether it be home-made, unregistered suppressors, magazines (in states which restrict), and even full-autos. Heck, I wouldn't be surprised if folks in this country had their hands on some serious tools... like RPGs or other so-called 'destructive devices'. Quietly hidden away for the 'just in case' moment they are needed. Even if they don't, you can bet that these things will easily become available when 'law and order' takes a break. Full-auto and larger mags would definitely be a plus in a SHTF situation. IMHO, they're not worth risking jail time for, but I guess if one had a really good hiding place... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jon 264 Posted December 22, 2011 No need to keep high-cap mags and machine guns at home. There will be plenty for the taking on day 2... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TheLugNutZ 21 Posted December 22, 2011 The guy that started that thread (im about 20 pages in btw and there is a ton of good info there) started his own web site. Lots of interesting stuff... http://shtfschool.com/ Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
KpdPipes 388 Posted December 22, 2011 I went and watched the eight (IIRC) part series on Liberia, and it was the most-horrifying sh+t I think I've viewed. You almost have to keep convincing yourself that it is not a movie you're watching, but real life. Those video journalists put together an intriguing and repulsive look at the worst of humanity and the human condition that I've ever seen. Liberia was Congo was worse..much worse...they aren't eating people in Liberia. Well, yet anyway. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Whamo 5 Posted December 23, 2011 Read the first dozen pages, VERY interesting. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NJScott 15 Posted December 23, 2011 Liberia was Congo was worse..much worse...they aren't eating people in Liberia. Well, yet anyway. Not true. "General" But Naked referred to he and his "troops" as killing and eating parts of innocent children to get hyped up before going into battle, and there was also commentary from several other Liberian combatants about similar atrocities. They didn't actually SHOW any cannibalism, but.... I'll have to view the Congo pieces next, but if it's as horrific as you say I think I'll wait until after the holidays. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
