9supratt4 0 Posted June 13, 2012 I have been scanning through the never ending info on the sticky....but I either skipped over it/haven't found it or it's not there. I'm going to go with I skipped over it as there's no way I can possibly read all of that word for word lol. If someone has possession of an M1 Carbine who received it as inheritance from their father as it was his rifle in WWII...is there a way to get a license or permit to own it legally in NJ? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Maksim 1,504 Posted June 13, 2012 Banned by name. Cannot legally own in New Jersey. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Murphy4570 15 Posted June 13, 2012 That "someone" would be wise to never speak of such a weapon ever again, for as long as the weapon resides in NJ. Take a short trip across the Delaware river, and presto! Completely legal. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Qel Hoth 33 Posted June 13, 2012 I have been scanning through the never ending info on the sticky....but I either skipped over it/haven't found it or it's not there. I'm going to go with I skipped over it as there's no way I can possibly read all of that word for word lol. If someone has possession of an M1 Carbine who received it as inheritance from their father as it was his rifle in WWII...is there a way to get a license or permit to own it legally in NJ? Technically yes, you can get an Assault Firearm license. In reality, no, you will not get one, ever. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GRIZ 3,369 Posted June 13, 2012 The permit process for an AW in NJ is the same as a machine gun so we all know how that's going to go. If the carbine isn't one of the 300 or so AW that were registered when the ban was instituted it is already contraband. If it was registered the executor of this estate has 90 days (I believe that's the time period) to dispose of the rifle out of state. That's it. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Njgunowner 2 Posted June 13, 2012 Sell it out of state or move, that's about your only options. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
woodentoe 14 Posted June 13, 2012 Rent a storage unit/locker in PA and keep it there. Don't part with it. That rifle should automatically be grandfathered in. A pox on NJ for making an heirloom like that illegal. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dino71 7 Posted June 13, 2012 Is an M1 carbine and a M1 Garand the same rifle? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MattH 0 Posted June 13, 2012 Is an M1 carbine and a M1 Garand the same rifle? No they are different rifles. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Shawnmoore81 623 Posted June 13, 2012 personally me if i inherited a rifle like that id just hide it. it has sentamental value so selling it isnt an option. just never shoot it in nj. never post pics. hell forget you even had this topic.id would be ashame to pass on the rifle then the laws get changed. hell even having an out of state relitive hold it is an option. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dan 177 Posted June 13, 2012 Good ole "insta-felon" M1 Carbine. As others said, the only option is to not posses one within NJ, unless it was previously registered or officially rendered inoperable and the forms filled out during the ban amnesty period. If a person does have one, just understand this is a 2nd degree felony in NJ. This is serious life-changing shiznit here. I also believe there are mandatory sentences involved now. IMO, not something to fool with by keeping hidden in a basement. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
9supratt4 0 Posted June 13, 2012 NJ sucks!! If it can be proven that it is an heirloom, it should be deemed so. What is the reason for the ban?? Is it just because they are high powered? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Pizza Bob 1,488 Posted June 13, 2012 NJ sucks!! If it can be proven that it is an heirloom, it should be deemed so. What is the reason for the ban?? Is it just because they are high powered? They are hardly "high powered". The answer to your question is: Politics Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Smokin .50 1,907 Posted June 13, 2012 NJ sucks!! If it can be proven that it is an heirloom, it should be deemed so. What is the reason for the ban?? Is it just because they are high powered? Bob is right! It was just rammed-in "Feel-Good" legislation and a real shame too. During my 44 years as a shooter (since I was only 8) I've fired several and they're really a fun gun, especially for kids with shorter arms wanting to shoot a .30 caliber rifle. I've never owned one, but have shot several. PA is a free State! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
KpdPipes 388 Posted June 13, 2012 Technically yes, you can get an Assault Firearm license. In reality, no, you will not get one, ever. No, you can't the only licenses issued were during the initial amnesty period when the law was passed in 1992..once that period was closed, no more License applications were accepted or granted. the ONLY Exception was for LE with a signed letter from their chief asserting that it was to be used for duty purposes, and had to be surrendered to the agency upon separation. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
KpdPipes 388 Posted June 13, 2012 NJ sucks!! If it can be proven that it is an heirloom, it should be deemed so. What is the reason for the ban?? Is it just because they are high powered? This is pretty much it..although the Scumbags in Trenton will never EVER admit it..... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
LorenzoS 100 Posted June 14, 2012 Yeah, it was also popular with criminals back in the 60's - 70's. Fortunately the ban has eliminated the criminal use of firearms and we are all safe now. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bt Doctur 188 Posted June 14, 2012 Rumor was the nj ones were sent to PA in LTC`s (long term container) to be dug up at a future date. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GRIZ 3,369 Posted June 14, 2012 I did a bit of reaearch and in the gun was registered operable you can keep it if it is made inoperable according to NJAC 13:54-5.3. Otherwise you have 90 days to dispose of it and turn it in. i guess if its already inoperable you need to transfer the registration to the heir. I found conflicting data regarding how many were registered. One source says 355 as operable, another says 985 operable and 905 inoperable. None were registered in Union County. 4 were turned in to NJSP. This is out of the 100-300,000 estimated SA weapons in nj at the time (1990). No, you can't the only licenses issued were during the initial amnesty period when the law was passed in 1992..once that period was closed, no more License applications were accepted or granted. the ONLY Exception was for LE with a signed letter from their chief asserting that it was to be used for duty purposes, and had to be surrendered to the agency upon separation. Well no...and yes KpdPipes. The application procedure is outlined in NJAC 13;54-5.2 and anyone can apply. However, the applicant needs to supply information sufficient for "issuance requires the court find public safety and welfare so required". I can't see anyone meeting this criteria unless they are a lEO with a letter from the chief. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Njgunowner 2 Posted June 14, 2012 The real reason for the ban was "at the time" they were very cheap as the military had warehouses of them they were getting rid of, and the ammo was super cheap as well as the again "the military had a huge surplus". The military doesn't use the round the Carbine used anymore, so they literally had millions of rounds they were selling off super cheap. The pinheads in NJ thought the "criminals" were going to snatch these all up with the cheap ammo and start world war 3. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
KpdPipes 388 Posted June 14, 2012 I did a bit of reaearch and in the gun was registered operable you can keep it if it is made inoperable according to NJAC 13:54-5.3. Otherwise you have 90 days to dispose of it and turn it in. i guess if its already inoperable you need to transfer the registration to the heir. I found conflicting data regarding how many were registered. One source says 355 as operable, another says 985 operable and 905 inoperable. None were registered in Union County. 4 were turned in to NJSP. This is out of the 100-300,000 estimated SA weapons in nj at the time (1990). Well no...and yes KpdPipes. The applicationprocedure is outlined in NJAC 13;54-5.2 and anyone can apply. However, the applicant needs to supply information sufficient for "issuance requires the court find public safety and welfare so required". I can't see anyone meeting this criteria unless they are a lEO with a letter from the chief. Most everyone just sold their stuff out of state..we all assumed that within a year or two after registration that they would revoke the permits and go for confiscation. As for registering, yes the statute still has the provisions....but the actual forms to do so no longer exist..there MAY be a couple of copies out there in some file drawer, but NJSP requested them all back years ago. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ExpendableRaj 1 Posted June 14, 2012 Criminals prefer firearms that are relatively compact, lightweight, inexpensive, and pack a decent punch? No way! Banning guns "because they were popular with criminals" is stupid. Unfortunately, I don't make the rules and NJ decided to ban guns exactly for that reason. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites