DeadPatriot 0 Posted September 13, 2012 Good day, I'm new to your board so I hope you don't mind me introducing myself to you in this way. My partner and I are Emmy award winning producers from Northern California. Two years ago we started working on a film about street gangs invading rural California. Due to my repeated contact with gang members, it was recommend that I obtain a CCW permit - which I did. The process led to me learn about the backward gun laws of California compared to the rest of the Union. Through research I discovered that there has never been a positive documentary about the 2nd Amendment and gun ownership in America. Assaulted: Civil Rights Under Fire will be such a film. Supported by the CalGuns Foundation and Second Amendment Foundation, this PTV/PBS documentary will look at how California is the front line in gun control battle. The film will look at the current assault weapon ban proposals in California and Washington, DC, as well as, CCW permitting across the USA. Here are a few links to learn more about the film: http://kck.st/OllEYn (Our Kickstarter funding campaign where you can see the trailer) http://www.AssaultedFilm.com (The project website) http://www.examiner.com/article/docu...rms-under-fire (An article from the Examiner) https://www.yousendit.com/download/TEhXNWNnQ3Q1aWIwZXNUQw (Gun Owners of America Radio interview) Please post or IM any ideas, suggestions, or viewpoints you want to share with me regarding this production. Thank you for reading this post. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TK421 2 Posted September 13, 2012 No examination of harmful gun control laws and their impact on the law abiding would be complete without an examination of New Jersey's convoluted, vague and poorly written laws. I think you have just found yourself a wealth of content for your film. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Pizza Bob 1,488 Posted September 13, 2012 While fashion and food trends may start on the west coast, legislative abuse generally starts on the east coast. The NJ AWB went into effect in 1993. In 1994 Joe Biden copied must of the provisions in NJ's AWB and that became the model for the federal AWB that ran from 1994 to 2004. While CA may have some unique firearms laws, you are missing the boat if you don't include states like NJ, IL, NY, MA in your documentry about rights being abused. A laudable project but woefully incomplete if it doesn't come from a national perspective. JMHO Adios, Pizza Bob Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
acuevo 0 Posted September 13, 2012 i have to agree with bob and tk421. jersey is generally regarded as the second worst in the country when it comes to our rights. there is plenty of crime in camden and newark, both involving criminals who *gasp* break the law and ignore what weapons are legal and what are not, they don't care, they're criminals! meanwhile the law abiding citizens are shafted and forced to jump through hoops to make sure our paperwork, firearms and how we handle them are all compliant to the law. its high time for a film like this! common sense gun laws? its common sense to allow the public to arm and defend itself!! i look forward to seeing your documentory and i hope it will instill some 'common sense' into a lot of people in this country. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DeadPatriot 0 Posted September 13, 2012 Thanks folks, and yes, we agree that we need to look at the entire nation to do a thorough job of this production. I am posting on all the gun forums that will allow me access. We are a small production company but very capable. We need to gather as much research and input as we can to do a proper doc on this very complicated topic. We'll take all the feedback you got! Good and Bad, we want to hear it all. Kris Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
acuevo 0 Posted September 13, 2012 can someone chime in about some of the people arrested or bullied over the vague laws here? i would but i'm not 100% on the facts and i don't want to give false information, but maybe these topics could be discussed: the gentleman that was kidnapped and still denied his carry permit, also the ongoing case and other individuals being denied their permits. the gentleman that moved here from colorado who was caught with a 17(?) round magazine just a few thoughts i had as i was watching the trailer, looks great by the way Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
tom catman 0 Posted September 13, 2012 you should add in your film about the bias against law abiding 2a enthusiasts from the media...... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
heaterbob 53 Posted September 13, 2012 make sure you throw in that gun control has its roots in racism. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
siderman 1,138 Posted September 13, 2012 The Never-ending Saga DeadPatriot- we have our own "documentry" here! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Old Glock guy 1,127 Posted September 13, 2012 Nice trailer! Good luck with your project. Interesting to see a state that has more prohibitions than we do in NJ. Are AR's really illegal in CA? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TK421 2 Posted September 13, 2012 At least you can have a bullet button in CA to negate some of the stupidity regarding ARs. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
johnp 45 Posted September 13, 2012 At least you can have a bullet button in CA to negate some of the stupidity regarding ARs. But a bullet button is stupidity regarding ARs. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TK421 2 Posted September 14, 2012 But a bullet button is stupidity regarding ARs. Agreed, but it's a good trade, you add one stupid feature and get three back in return... ;-) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DeadPatriot 0 Posted September 14, 2012 Yes, all great ideas and some of which are being examined in the film. The working title was "Bullet Button" to sum up the silly laws, but it was deemed to specific title wise. Sure do appreciate the feedback, keep it coming folks! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
diamondd817 827 Posted September 14, 2012 Make it a point that strict gun laws only effect law abiding citizens by making them victims and has no effect on criminals except to make them safer. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
n4p226r 105 Posted September 14, 2012 Looks nice. Definitely think it should be more national. I'd say nj is probably worse than California. NYC worse than that. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DeadPatriot 0 Posted September 16, 2012 The Never-ending Saga DeadPatriot- we have our own "documentry" here! And this hilariously beautiful piece of work got tweeted out today! It is excellent! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
siderman 1,138 Posted September 16, 2012 And this hilariously beautiful piece of work got tweeted out today! It is excellent! And that piece of work, from our own NJ2AS, is the proverbial tip of the iceberg.... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Regulator72 80 Posted September 16, 2012 You should get in touch with Frank from NJ2AS, he is a WEALTH of knowledge. Also, Anthony from Gun For Hire, he has his own radio show, you can find on Itunes, take a listen, see what we are up against and what the people on this board are fighting for.. I only mention them because of the more 'public" role that they play. The other members of this board are also a great source of info. be careful, you could do about 4 hrs on NJ's BS alone! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
n4p226r 105 Posted September 17, 2012 You should add that the laws are so ridiculous guns like the m1 carbine and ruger charger are both considered assault weapons the same as any other in NJ. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dan 177 Posted September 17, 2012 First, I applaud you on your work and do have high expectations for your documentary! I say definitely reach out to the NJ2AS organization. The list of idiocy goes on when it comes to NJ gun laws. Do you know that currently we abide by the NJ Administrative Code when it comes to purchasing semi-automatic firearms instead of the current actual statutes "on the books"? Did you know that a NJ judge has ruled that the NJ AWB is "unconstitutionally vague", and that ruling has never been challenged? Awhile back I posted a good synopsis on our current AWB, link here if you care to read : http://njgunforums.com/forum/index.php?/topic/24350-evil-feature-list-nj-awb/page__p__320427__hl__pelleteri__fromsearch__1#entry320427 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DeadPatriot 0 Posted September 18, 2012 You should get in touch with Frank from NJ2AS, he is a WEALTH of knowledge. Also, Anthony from Gun For Hire, he has his own radio show, you can find on Itunes, take a listen, see what we are up against and what the people on this board are fighting for.. I only mention them because of the more 'public" role that they play. The other members of this board are also a great source of info. be careful, you could do about 4 hrs on NJ's BS alone! Thanks for the tips and advice, I will follow through. I'm starting to think this should be a weekly series... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DeadPatriot 0 Posted September 18, 2012 You guys are great, thanks for the ideas and leads! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
woodentoe 14 Posted September 18, 2012 You've given me some inspiration to begin research on a NJ-centric doc. So, thank you for that. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
HINCHMAN 4 Posted September 18, 2012 I applaud you for the effort, but as others have said, you need to include the madness that takes place in NJ, IL, NY, MA. Our laws in NJ are convoluted and scary. Like if I get gas on the way home from the range, the moment I pull into a gas station I become a felon, 5 years for illegal handgun possession. Broaden your scope, a great film would encompass the whole of gun rights in the USA Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Solo 0 Posted September 18, 2012 Looks great! I would agree with the other posters who want to expand its scope to NJ, IL, DC and the like Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DeadPatriot 0 Posted September 18, 2012 The film will cover all aspects of 2nd Amendment in the country by comparing and contrasting CA to other states - including NJ. Please let you friends know about our project and support us if you can. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Pizza Bob 1,488 Posted September 18, 2012 Like if I get gas on the way home from the range, the moment I pull into a gas station I become a felon, 5 years for illegal handgun possession. I'd say that's more than a bit of a stretch. The statute says "necessary deviations" (I think that's the phrase they use) - pulling into a gas station would be a necessary deviation. Now, if you drive three miles out of your way to get a certain brand or suchlike...hmmmm....not so much. Don't make things worse than they are. Adios, Pizza Bob Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
woodentoe 14 Posted September 18, 2012 I'd say that's more than a bit of a stretch. The statute says "necessary deviations" (I think that's the phrase they use) - pulling into a gas station would be a necessary deviation. Now, if you drive three miles out of your way to get a certain brand or suchlike...hmmmm....not so much. Don't make things worse than they are. Adios, Pizza Bob "Deviations that are reasonably necessary under the circumstances" It's vague on purpose, no doubt. But, I am a reasonable man. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TK421 2 Posted September 24, 2012 I'm not sure if anyone has seen this, I tried to search for it but every post with a URL in the text popped up... A STUDY IN GUN CONTROL, NEW JERSEY It is a little older, April 2009 and some of the facts surrounding mandatory gun registration in NJ are flawed but overall I found some of the information interesting. The only thing I have an issue with is if the registration information is flawed how accurate is the rest? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites