aguilar64 9 Posted October 18, 2012 I know the stock has to be pinned (Not Permanent) but is the muzzle break that comes with permanent or not? Also, does anyone has a picture as to where you guys pinned the stock? All this is hypothetical as I haven’t found a FDE stock. Thanks, Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
P4Plenty 1 Posted October 18, 2012 It is a removable break Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
aguilar64 9 Posted October 18, 2012 That's what I thought, thanks. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SgtToadette 59 Posted October 20, 2012 When I was at RTSP a few months back they had some SCARs in stock. I talked to the guy behind the counter about it and he said that they used an epoxy to secure the folding element of the stock. Not sure how they secured the collapsing aspect. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Wojo 98 Posted October 22, 2012 Please, call it an adjustable stock. You'll have the NJSP tapping your phone if you even mention a c-o-l-l-a-p-s-e-a-b-l-e stock. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CageFighter 236 Posted October 24, 2012 I have a SCAR 16 & 17. Shane45 @ TJ's has done the mods on both (16&17) to make it NJ compliant. PK90 did the mods on my original black 17, then I went w/ FDE aftyerwards. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Maksim 1,504 Posted October 24, 2012 Shane45 does an AMAZING job on the Scar. Would not let anyone else butcher one.... especially such an expensive gun. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CageFighter 236 Posted October 24, 2012 Shane45 does an AMAZING job on the Scar. Would not let anyone else butcher one.... especially such an expensive gun. Yep!! best part is........you dont see any of the work on the stock and minimal on the muzzlebrake! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Shane45 807 Posted October 24, 2012 Thanks for the kind words guys Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
aguilar64 9 Posted October 25, 2012 I'm so tempted to get one but my only concerns are the magazines availability. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CageFighter 236 Posted October 27, 2012 I'm so tempted to get one but my only concerns are the magazines availability. that is no longer a problem. sh*t....I have about 16 (soon 19) 20rounders @ my FL address. the real problem is finding an optic less than $1k! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Rob0115 1,105 Posted November 12, 2012 Does this meat the ban state requirements for a SCAR17? http://www.riflegear.com/p-943-stock-block-fn-scar.aspx I have one coming in this week and would prefer not to epoxy the stock if possible. The muzzle device can be pin welded. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dan 177 Posted November 12, 2012 Looks good to me. As long as the stock doesn't fold, collapse, or "telescope". You will be good. You would also have to put a pin on the "adjustable" part that moves in an out. IANAL, IMO Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CageFighter 236 Posted November 12, 2012 Does this meat the ban state requirements for a SCAR17? http://www.riflegear...ck-fn-scar.aspx I have one coming in this week and would prefer not to epoxy the stock if possible. The muzzle device can be pin welded. I have these in my stock so that they dont fold. getting the pin out is a real pain in the a$$. The collapsible issue still needs to be addressed. u need to pin the cam inside or pin the stock from underneath. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Rob0115 1,105 Posted November 12, 2012 OK, so it does address the fold and then just the pinning needs to be done so it doesn't collapse? Thanks, Rob Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dan 177 Posted November 12, 2012 OK, so it does address the fold and then just the pinning needs to be done so it doesn't collapse? Thanks, Rob Yes! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Rob0115 1,105 Posted November 12, 2012 Yes! awesome thanks. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DevsAdvocate 112 Posted November 13, 2012 I have these in my stock so that they dont fold. getting the pin out is a real pain in the a$$. The collapsible issue still needs to be addressed. u need to pin the cam inside or pin the stock from underneath. It's not collapsible, it's adjustable. Collapsible means that the stock can collapse to disappear entirely. Hence why folding stocks and HK type collapsing stocks are illegal: because they make the rifle easy to conceal. It's also why a Magpul PRS is legal. You can adjust a SCAR stock all the way and it's still a stock. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dan 177 Posted November 13, 2012 I hear you on the argument on "adjustable" versus other definitions. It has been used successfully in court as a defense for a CAR type stock on an AR style rifle in the past if I remember correctly. Bottom line is, it would be up to the jury to determine if it fits the definition of adjustable versus telescoping, with the latter being up to 10yrs in prison. My mental exercise that I play in my head is what would a vigorous anti-2A prosecutor say to convince a jury comprised of anti or mostly apathetic NJ jurors that the stock does indeed "telescope" versus my defense of "no it adjusts" . All the while holding up in court your rifle and saying "see it is an evil assault rifle designed for only one purpose....". To the uninformed jury, what do you think they will think? Each person has to make their own decision here on what they want to do. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DevsAdvocate 112 Posted November 13, 2012 I hear you on the argument on "adjustable" versus other definitions. It has been used successfully in court as a defense for a CAR type stock on an AR style rifle in the past if I remember correctly. Bottom line is, it would be up to the jury to determine if it fits the definition of adjustable versus telescoping, with the latter being up to 10yrs in prison. My mental exercise that I play in my head is what would a vigorous anti-2A prosecutor say to convince a jury comprised of anti or mostly apathetic NJ jurors that the stock does indeed "telescope" versus my defense of "no it adjusts" . All the while holding up in court your rifle and saying "see it is an evil assault rifle designed for only one purpose....". To the uninformed jury, what do you think they will think? Each person has to make their own decision here on what they want to do. Honestly, why would a DA have you in court at that point? You must've done something really bad and they're grasping for straws to ensure you go away for a long time. Now if it's just a CAR stock on an AR-15 that has no bayo lug or flash hider, then the DA is trying to build a mountain out of a mole hill. Especially when your defense makes the case that the rifle needs to be adjustable so that your wife can shoot it comfortably. It's in such an instance that I believe a DA will not even bother prosecuting you. TL;DR, keep a low profile, don't commit felonies, don't beat your wife/SO, and you'll be fine. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mag1 0 Posted November 13, 2012 Shane45 does an AMAZING job on the Scar. Would not let anyone else butcher one.... especially such an expensive gun. What are the mods that have been done? Just stock and break? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Rob0115 1,105 Posted November 17, 2012 Picked up a SCAR17s last night and took it to Cherry Ridge this morning. Wow. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DevsAdvocate 112 Posted November 17, 2012 Picked up a SCAR17s last night and took it to Cherry Ridge this morning. Wow. Where'd you get it? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Rob0115 1,105 Posted November 17, 2012 Lucianos. One left. They pin welded muzzles, used a mechanical stock block (saw it on rifle gear) and let me try and pinned the adjustment where I wanted it. I love it in .308, a lot. They had one more left on the shelf. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DevsAdvocate 112 Posted November 17, 2012 Lucianos. One left. They pin welded muzzles, used a mechanical stock block (saw it on rifle gear) and let me try and pinned the adjustment where I wanted it. I love it in .308, a lot. They had one more left on the shelf. Interesting. I still need to get money for this first, haha Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CageFighter 236 Posted November 19, 2012 I have a SCAR 16 & 17! unfort, they are both waiting Elcans and have not been shot since purchased. Anyone have an extra $4500 for me to borrow? -this sh*t aint cheap....wtf! Rob0115, shoot me a PM. im also in Morris Cty, near Montville! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CageFighter 236 Posted November 20, 2012 Shane, what r u laughing at...its all YOUR fault! STOP bringing these expensive toys near me! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Shane45 807 Posted November 20, 2012 HEHE, I think your wife and Tactical Monkey's wife are going to take out a hit on me! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mipafox 438 Posted November 20, 2012 It's not collapsible, it's adjustable. Collapsible means that the stock can collapse to disappear entirely. Hence why folding stocks and HK type collapsing stocks are illegal: because they make the rifle easy to conceal. It's also why a Magpul PRS is legal. You can adjust a SCAR stock all the way and it's still a stock. Are you talking about NJ AWB law? Because none of that has anything to do with NJ AWB law. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites