DirtyDigz 1,812 Posted April 11, 2013 http://www.costco.com/.product.11625662.html BIGHORN 19ECB Safe Fully adjustable and convertible interior allows you to increase or decrease shelf space depending on your own needs Holds up to 24 long guns Interior Dimensions: 57.5" H x 26.75" W x 14.75" D Quality Upholstery Predrilled for anchoring to the floor Predrilled for dehumidifier (not included) External hinge, fully opening door provides greater access than internal hinged designs limited to only 90 degrees of opening Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
twentynine30s 1 Posted April 11, 2013 I bought this one last year for same price. Works great, especially for the price! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
O-gre 7 Posted April 11, 2013 Other than the hinges it looks exacty like the Cannon I just bought from them. NO tax and free shipping. A bit of a **** to move though. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DirtyDigz 1,812 Posted April 11, 2013 If you google "BIGHORN 19ECB review" you'll see a lot of discussion on this safe on various gun forums, most notably calguns. This appears to be a regularly occurring deal. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
alec.mc 180 Posted April 11, 2013 i've got the Cannon version of this, only difference looks like the hinges on the big horn are on the exterior, whereas the cannon are internal and not visable. It's a good safe. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ogfarmer 138 Posted April 11, 2013 if you contact bighorn after ordering you can have the lock switched to a manual one, they are drop shipped from bighorn Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DirtyDigz 1,812 Posted April 11, 2013 if you contact bighorn after ordering you can have the lock switched to a manual one, they are drop shipped from bighorn Been reading some more recent discussions on this safe, some are reporting that bighorn is now refusing to do an electronic/mechanical dial lock switch Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ogfarmer 138 Posted April 11, 2013 oh, guess i havent read that yet Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
falcone 89 Posted April 11, 2013 If that's the case, then I wouldn't buy it. For me it would have to be mechanical. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BierGut 0 Posted April 11, 2013 Works as a decent gun cabinet and certainly keeps the kids out. Combined with a good home alarm will give you some time against a burglar if it's really bolted down well. Wouldn't trust serious valuables or a lot of cash in though. (fire or crime) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BullzeyeNJ 104 Posted April 11, 2013 I like mine alot. Never an issue. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
O-gre 7 Posted April 11, 2013 Works as a decent gun cabinet and certainly keeps the kids out. Combined with a good home alarm will give you some time against a burglar if it's really bolted down well. Wouldn't trust serious valuables or a lot of cash in though. (fire or crime) why not? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
AlexTheSane 236 Posted April 12, 2013 I have this one. I love it, but I have no idea how you'd fit 24 long guns in there. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wooly bugger 1 Posted April 12, 2013 I have the bigger one and very happy with it. Great customer service. They sent me a security upgrade, and when I screwed up the install and locked myself out, paid for the locksmith to drill the safe and sent me a new one without charge. The amount of effort required by the locksmith gave me a lot of confidence in the security of the safe. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Blake 50 Posted April 12, 2013 I'm not suggesting that this isn't a good safe, but to the point of one of the above posters I would not purchase an electronic safe. Right after Sandy I was talking to the contractor who was helping us gut my parents house and the army navy store and he had a terrible story about his best friend. His friend lived in Green Island, one of the hardest hit area's of Toms River, and this guy had multiple electronic safe's in his garage that housed ten's of thousand's of dollar's worth of firearms. I don't know exactly what this guy had, but from what I was told alot of it was antique stuff that is not readily available anymore. Anyways - when the flood came the water was high enough to short out the safe(s) and he was unable to get any of his firearms out until a locksmith could come drill them open, several days later. By that time a good chunk of his collection was ruined. I always leaned mechanical anyways, but this story solidified it. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RubberBullets 65 Posted April 12, 2013 Everybody has a price point.. This surely beats storing them in a closet...under a bed...or a gun cabinet. People with graffunders will always look down at ft knox owners...ft knox to liberty...liberty to mesa/bighorn safes...it all about what you can afford to protect your valuables. The important part is that youve made the attempt to secure and protect your valuables Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TOMP40 0 Posted April 12, 2013 I just ordered one of these today.. For the price delivered, its hard to beat. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mag1 0 Posted April 12, 2013 What could you use to store pistols on the inside of the door? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DirtyDigz 1,812 Posted April 12, 2013 I have this one. I love it, but I have no idea how you'd fit 24 long guns in there. Yeah, the "gun rating" on safes is like the "person rating" on tents. In the typical "4 person" tent, there's no way 4 people are going to sleep comfortably in it unless they're all *REAL* friendly. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
falcone 89 Posted April 12, 2013 Is anyone sure that bighorn wont swap out the lock for a mechanical one? Debating on wether I should get this. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BierGut 0 Posted April 12, 2013 why not? Because a professional burglar would be inside that cabinet in under two minutes if he gets it on it's back. It's a good gun cabinet that will keep kids out, but do not fool yourself into thinking it can replace a safe deposit box in a bank or a true high quality safe -- there is a reason why the same size from a high quality safe sells for 4k plus and it usually starts with thickness of the steel. Then at a $500 price point the fire rating is a real concern as well. This video is of a $1000 model. Most people do not take the step of encasing their safes into a frame or concrete... Like I said-- the Costco unit makes a nice gun cabinet to keep the kids out, that's about it. I wouldn't store any more money in it than I could easily accept losing. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
AlexTheSane 236 Posted April 12, 2013 What could you use to store pistols on the inside of the door? There's this: http://www.amazon.co...m/dp/B004MN8TRM I have this: http://www.amazon.co...erty+door+panel But it's a little too wide for the 19ECB door. I had to modify the straps a bit to keep it tight, otherwise the straps kept coming loose. Also if you install the top shelf at any useful level and put handguns in the top pockets, you can't close the door. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mag1 0 Posted April 12, 2013 There's this: http://www.amazon.co...m/dp/B004MN8TRM I have this: http://www.amazon.co...erty+door+panel But it's a little too wide for the 19ECB door. I had to modify the straps a bit to keep it tight, otherwise the straps kept coming loose. Also if you install the top shelf at any useful level and put handguns in the top pockets, you can't close the door. Thanks! I never really checked mine, but what is the inside of the safe door made of? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
AlexTheSane 236 Posted April 12, 2013 I think it's sheetrock and fabric. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RubberBullets 65 Posted April 12, 2013 Because a professional burglar would be inside that cabinet in under two minutes if he gets it on it's back. All the more reason to bolt it down and if possible, in a space where the opening side (left) is up against a wall to stave off prying leverage. I say again, there is a price point for every person. Some people are only looking to store a rifle or two..some cant afford to put away for a 4k safe that fits just as many long guns. In my opinion, the video above is bias because it is a controlled experiment with all variables favoring the crooks. I would expect these gents are well versed in forcing safes, not bolted to the ground, plenty of room for the would be crooks to work with a wide safe plus room for to guys prying. Read up on the products and its reviews before you purchase. Know your spending limit.. if you can stretch it further great. A smash and grab burglar should be deterred by the work involved trying to pry the cheaper safes properly secured. But most importantly.. a motivated thief will find a way to take or break into anything you have if given the time to operate. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BierGut 0 Posted April 12, 2013 All the more reason to bolt it down and if possible, in a space where the opening side (left) is up against a wall to stave off prying leverage. I say again, there is a price point for every person. Some people are only looking to store a rifle or two..some cant afford to put away for a 4k safe that fits just as many long guns. In my opinion, the video above is bias because it is a controlled experiment with all variables favoring the crooks. I would expect these gents are well versed in forcing safes, not bolted to the ground, plenty of room for the would be crooks to work with a wide safe plus room for to guys prying. And when bolting down, if possible, try to go through the floor with bolts, nuts and large washers through an small added joist. The bolts they give you can be pulled out by a strong ten year old if screwed down into plywood sub-flooring. RubberBullets: Whether the video is bias or not, the cabinet was breached in under two minutes. Doesn't bode well if a crook has 10 minutes or more to attempt prying. I understand everyone has a price point. What I wanted to convey is that people shouldn't think these $500 safes are anything more than safe storage to protect children from guns and items they can AFFORD to lose... that's all. If combined with a home security system it should at least put most bad guys on a clock. For true security people have to start by purchasing a safe that is tool-resistant and even then you have different levels. All of these $500 to $1000 safes are not that. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
O-gre 7 Posted April 12, 2013 Any safe on it's back can be compromised! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
O-gre 7 Posted April 12, 2013 Just watched that video and I'm sorry but that it absolute bullsh!t. First, I don't know anyone who's isn't bolted down. Second how many professional thieves carry 5' crow bars! Come on now! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hare Trigger 0 Posted April 12, 2013 Have any body checked out Q-Line Design? www.qlinedesign.com Great storage idea! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites