DJNEB 1 Posted May 1, 2014 Hey guys, so I just got my new handgun and I am confused about one little thing - is there not a traditional "safety" on the Walther P99 AS model? I know there is the round indicator, but is there no way to lock the gun like on other firearms? I have rifles and shotgun with safeties so maybe handguns are a bit different, but wanted some of your guys' guidance. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Old Glock guy 1,127 Posted May 1, 2014 I'm not familiar with that particular gun, but many handguns, like Glocks, Springfield XD's, and some S&W M&P's among others, have no external safety. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Scrap 4 Posted May 1, 2014 I mean you no disrespect, but when you say "traditional safety" that is a very misleading term. As noted above, you are most likely referring to an "external safety" which too many people confuse for an on-off switch. I *believe* this particular Walther is a Double Action/Single Action pistol- what that means is, it's designed to be carried with a round in the chamber but the hammer down. The first time you pull the trigger, it is "Double Action", it will cock the hammer back as you pull the trigger, then fire, and then for each subsequent shot in that magazine, it will be ""single Action", the hammer will already be cocked and the trigger pull will be markedly lighter. The initial pull in "Double Action" will be very much harder, because your finger is squeezing the trigger to first cock the hammer, Then complete the firing sequence. The pistol I am about to buy is like this. There is no external safety on the pistol like you're thinking, no on-off switch. The pistol's safe with the hammer down, and there is a decocker to lower the hammer when you chamber a round but want to carry it safely. Two things to note- you certainly must always be vigilant because IT WILL FIRE if you pull the trigger or something does, when in Double Action/hammer down mode - it just requires a marked amount of force. Two- you never want to carry it with the hammer cocked- that is totally unsafe in this style of pistol. hope this helps. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Scrap 4 Posted May 1, 2014 I just realized this is striker fired, so you don't have a hammer to cock, but the principle is the same. You need to use the decocker (after chambering a round) to "decock the striker" for safe carry, then when you pull the trigger the first time, (With the harder trigger pull), the striker will be "cocked" for each shot after, and the trigger will be easy to squeeze. If you were to chamber the gun, shoot it say 5 times, then want to reholster it, you would need to /want to use that decocker to take the pressure off the internal striker, like lowering an external hammer. sorry for my initial igorance of the fact it has no exposed hammer. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Wolfjon 0 Posted May 1, 2014 I am not 100% sure about the P99 but with my wifes PPQ there is no decoker once you chamber the round the only safety is your finger. It is a striker fired as well but the only way to engauge the striker is to pull the slide. Then the only way to release the stiker is to drop the mag and dechamber the round and the pull the trigger. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
checko 180 Posted May 1, 2014 There is no external safety. It does have a decocker if you want to keep your pistol in DA mode. Keep your finger off the trigger and use caution when holstering and you will be fine Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Barms 98 Posted May 1, 2014 Every pistol has the same safety. It's external and it's called "don't ever point it at something unless ready to kill it" When I first thought about a pistol I went crazy thinking about safeties and decockers. I got an M&P with no safety at all and after some training, but more importantly just being around people who give great advice I feel more confident about not doing something negligent vs thinking a safety will stop negligence. (Someone here will probably yell at me for saying that). Although i do not carry every day nor is it used in my job. But I think for range and HD I'm okay no safety. But perhaps you want a safety in case someone else gets a hold of it? Indeed each situation is unique. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
LorenzoS 100 Posted May 2, 2014 You bought a firearm and took it home without understanding how it functions? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BlueLineFish 615 Posted May 2, 2014 Did you ask the ask the dealer? Thats what they are there for. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Russell 3 Posted May 2, 2014 I'm also confused, you bought a handgun without knowing how it operates and whether it has an external manual safety? For most people, whether a handgun has a manual safety is a big deciding factor in choosing what handgun to buy. Why did you choose the P99 instead of a different handgun (not that anything's wrong with the P99)? Handguns do not need external manual safeties because they're meant to be carried in a holster which covers the trigger guard. Therefore while in the holster the trigger cannot accidentally be pulled. When carrying a rifle or shotgun in a sling nothing is covering the trigger guard so something could catch on the trigger so you must use the manual safety. The P99 doesn't have a manual safety, but it does have internal safeties which prevent it from firing unless the trigger is pulled, such as a drop safety. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dman2112 6 Posted May 2, 2014 So you bought a gun not know how it works or what type of action it has? (Hand in face) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
remixer 1,645 Posted May 2, 2014 Did you purchase the firearm local or Online? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Steve_G 51 Posted May 2, 2014 Everyone has to start somewhere. Not everyone grew up around guns and they really don't know much about them. I suggest you take a course to get the basics down. NRA first steps pistol or NRA basic pistol would be a good place to start. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
checko 180 Posted May 2, 2014 If he's a gun n00b I'm just glad he bought one. Read your manual cover to cover. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BD104X 1 Posted May 2, 2014 Everyone has to start somewhere. Not everyone grew up around guns and they really don't know much about them. I suggest you take a course to get the basics down. NRA first steps pistol or NRA basic pistol would be a good place to start.^^ This ^^ cut the guy some slack. If you're unaware of the different types of triggers, how do you know what questions to ask? That's why he's asking - for guidance, not judgement. Not everyone has the luxury of a knowledgable friend or helpful gun store. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites