chris327 30 Posted June 5, 2014 i hear a grip plug is a must to keep out debris and aid in magazine insertion but I'm not sure which one would be recommended. I was taught to never use a grip plug in a glock, they are not made with one for a reason. If your mag gets stuck and wont release it makes a natural spot to get your thumb in and pull it out. That was a few years ago. And of course that was for defensive use. Not sure if things changed since then or opinions differ. But im just passing along my 2 cents i was taught and why i wouldn't use one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
High Exposure 5,664 Posted June 5, 2014 Taught by whom? Regardless, that's poppycock. Yes, you lose the ability to get your thumb into the cutout designed to be used if a mag gets stuck. But you are plugging a hole that can allow dirt/dust/mid/snow/sand into the trigger housing and installing a rudimentary magwell. Win-win! In 10 years and 10s of thousands of rounds I have never ever had a mag get stuck and, if I did, I know other ways to get it out. I actually use PreZine plastic magwells on all my defensive/duty Glocks. They are cheap, lightweight, low profile for a magwell, fit all Glock floor plates (except the Vickers ones), and work well as a reference point for my hand when I initially grip my pistol the holster. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
chris327 30 Posted June 6, 2014 sending a pm. Im not arguing that you 100% shouldn't use them. just passing along what i was taught. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Parker 213 Posted June 6, 2014 I suspect that "orifice" in the bottom of the grip was to facilitate removal of a magazine at one time. If you recall Gen 1 & early Gen II pistols, many came with the non-fully metal lined (NFML) magazines, and they were NOT drop-free. Such is not the case anymore. Robar Guns was filling that hole with plastic and reducing the grip frame size then re-stippling it decades ago, so it must not be that essential. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
n4p226r 105 Posted June 6, 2014 looks like at a minimum I'm going to try the warren tactical sevigny carry 2 dot night sights and an extended mag release since i can't really hit the stock one that easily. other than that it'll be pretty close to stock . Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
High Exposure 5,664 Posted June 6, 2014 I suspect that "orifice" in the bottom of the grip was to facilitate removal of a magazine at one time. If you recall Gen 1 & early Gen II pistols, many came with the non-fully metal lined (NFML) magazines, and they were NOT drop-free. Such is not the case anymore. Robar Guns was filling that hole with plastic and reducing the grip frame size then re-stippling it decades ago, so it must not be that essential.Spot on about early mags. You needed to pull the mags out because they were not drop free. True about Robar, Bowie did the same thing. But they installed side "cut-out"s to facilitate mag removal. One thing a lot of folks are forgetting though is that in the full size and compact Glocks, there is still a "cut-out" in the front strap to use if you block the rear one with a plug. But, again my training and experience have demonstrated to me that keeping the trigger housing debris free is a higher priority than worrying about a stuck mag - this conclusion was reached after examining how many times I have encountered issues related to these two different problems and speaking with others about what they have seen go wrong with their pistols. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
n4p226r 105 Posted June 6, 2014 can you link to the grip plug you are talking about? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SgtToadette 59 Posted June 7, 2014 can you link to the grip plug you are talking about? I believe this is it (.pdf warning). Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Parker 213 Posted June 7, 2014 A plethora of "plugs!" https://www.google.com/search?q=plugs+for+glock+grip&tbm=isch&imgil=QtU6Y-AYEGGJzM%253A%253Bhttps%253A%252F%252Fencrypted-tbn2.gstatic.com%252Fimages%253Fq%253Dtbn%253AANd9GcRtboe3drRVktK9ORRNrbbxHK8kx9SQIZNAj2t303M854bgTQbJ%253B314%253B286%253B1XelAc_Y7JpSNM%253Bhttp%25253A%25252F%25252Farmory.jsholsters.com%25252Fshop%25252Fitem.aspx%25253Fitemid%2525253D2062&source=iu&usg=__XM_9fc5Pm52ASEICotT9jWctxYI%3D&sa=X&ei=Cl6SU_6GCJTQsQTj44CIBQ&ved=0CGIQ9QEwBA&biw=1152&bih=701#imgdii=_252Fglockplugs.jpg%3Bhttp%253A%252F%252Farmory.jsholsters.com%252Fshop%252Fitem.aspx%253Fitemid%253D2062%3B314%3B286 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
High Exposure 5,664 Posted June 7, 2014 I believe this is it (.pdf warning). ¡Correctamundo! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mr.Shoot_It_All 13 Posted June 7, 2014 Greek plug molon labe slide cover. I love my glock ext mag release (in my opinion a must) and I color filled slide and mags. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Geek 4 Posted June 8, 2014 I was talking to the Glock rep at RTSP today. He indicated that grip plugs should not be used as the area can get clogged with debris. I rather like mine however, so I am simply going to clean in that area rather than ditch the plugs. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
n4p226r 105 Posted June 8, 2014 i got to hold a bunch of them today. i never noticed how impossible it is for me to eject a magazine. even on the long slide ones with the extended mags it was hard. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
chris327 30 Posted June 8, 2014 I was talking to the Glock rep at RTSP today. He indicated that grip plugs should not be used as the area can get clogged with debris. I rather like mine however, so I am simply going to clean in that area rather than ditch the plugs. Most manufacturers are never going to suggest adding aftermarket parts Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Geek 4 Posted June 8, 2014 I'm sure you are right, though he didn't mention the slide covers that virtually everyone uses to personalize their Glocks. He would have had a rough day if he worried about that. He did seem to look at each one to see what folks had chosen but didn't comment on them. The guy showed me where the carbon accumulates. Previously I never removed the plug. Now I'll just clean in there. So while I am not taking his advice on dispensing with the plug, I did get something out of the conversation. The guy also upgraded some springs on an older model I had. Overall it was a nice event. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
acaixguard 37 Posted June 8, 2014 Regarding the benefits of a butt plug for the Glock, watch this video (starting at 6:01)... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
High Exposure 5,664 Posted June 9, 2014 Bingo. I have seen that video before, lots of good info there. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
n4p226r 105 Posted June 9, 2014 Does anyone else download mags by 1? I've never heard that before Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
High Exposure 5,664 Posted June 9, 2014 Yes, I do. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Blank 60 Posted June 13, 2014 Grip Texture my 19 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
tuktuk 16 Posted June 19, 2014 Does anybody have a grip force adapter on their glock ??? what's the feedback on the new grip and installation ?? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
david8613 69 Posted July 11, 2014 Anyone use those beavertail back straps? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DeerSlayer 241 Posted July 11, 2014 Anyone use those beavertail back straps?my hands are too small to use any of the gen4 back straps. Fits perfect for me with nothing. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
redtornado23 0 Posted July 17, 2014 talon rubber style grip 25 cent trigger job extended slide release zev tech competition spring kit (with a wolf 4.5lb striker spring) zev tech v4 race connector gen 3 trigger bar (no bump) smooth face trigger definitely want to upgrade the sights but haven't been able to make up my mind... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
david8613 69 Posted July 17, 2014 Quick question is it unwise to mod a home defense gun? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NYMetsFan86 9 Posted July 17, 2014 Quick question is it unwise to mod a home defense gun? what do you mean by "mod." I dont recall any cases where spring weight and polishing internals has gotten someone in deeper shit but id assume its a gray area. However if anyone has the ability to research these types of cases we could make an educated guess. in NJ i wouldnt chance anyhting. I keep my taurus 809 as my hd handgun because ive done nothing to it, however i intend to carry my 19 with all the crap i've done to it in any state that accepts my ccw. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
A-Tech 8 Posted July 17, 2014 talon rubber style grip 25 cent trigger job extended slide release zev tech competition spring kit (with a wolf 4.5lb striker spring) zev tech v4 race connector gen 3 trigger bar (no bump) smooth face trigger definitely want to upgrade the sights but haven't been able to make up my mind... I'm not a believer of the Gen 3 trigger bar being better because of the bump. My gen 4 trigger bar is reeaall smooth. That bump keeps it centered over the striker safety plunger which removes just a slight amount of horizontal torque movement thus, removing some movement from the trigger pull. I suggest removing your barrel and watching the movement of your trigger bar as you pull the trigger. You will see it slide off to the side of the plunger. On mine, I polish the hell out of it and also use a sharpening stone to smooth the ramp on the backside of that depresser. My G17 trigger breaks great. No mush, no pre-travel, and extremely consistent. What I also do is heat the trigger spring ear on the trigger bar and bend it outward to almost 90°. I love my trigger Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
tuktuk 16 Posted July 18, 2014 does this count ??? PS btw I'm trying to return it to bastion .. U can prob see y ... Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
PD2K 115 Posted July 18, 2014 For my G4 Glocks: OEM extended slide catch OEM extended magazine release OEM 3.5lb connector IMHO anything more than this mechanically, except the $0.25 trigger job (which is simply polishing), is a bit on the overkill side. But hey, different strokes for different folks! However I notice that the extended magazine release is not really necessary for the G4...makes only a slight difference. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites