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Mrs. Peel    7,157

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Sort of related topic: I've been wondering about this for awhile... wouldn't you think some enterprising Pennsy gun range(s) near the NJ border would add a wall of rentable gun lockers before Gov. Christie exits stage left?... in anticipation of yet more firearms becoming illegal in NJ (but perhaps still being legal in PA)? That seems like a "no brainer" to me.

 

Wouldn't this option allow a NJ resident to legally store a "NJ illegal" firearm (and still enjoy it) not too far from home?... and avoid a forced sale?... or being a bold (or foolish depending on your POV) "instant felon"? 

 

And it's just more income streams for the ranges: money from the locker rentals, money from increased memberships from NJ folks, etc. Makes sense to me, but admittedly, I have less grasp than many of you of the legal quagmire that is NJ gun law.

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Lambo2936    297

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^Not a bad idea, but i think the issue is PA gun laws; NOT nj gun laws. Can we purchase firearms and keep them in PA if they are non-compliant? PA may insist they be legal in the state in which the owner resides; i'm not sure how their stuff works.
If its Kosher, i can see it being a great idea... If AR's are banned i'd probably rent in PA, seeing as driving to PA to shoot is the same distance as me driving to ft dix to shoot.

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T Bill    649

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There are a S. load of  non NJ compliant firearms and accessories own by NJ resident living a free life in PA. PA don't care.  They have been there since the last gun ban in NJ went into effect. 

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GRIZ    3,369

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^Not a bad idea, but i think the issue is PA gun laws; NOT nj gun laws. Can we purchase firearms and keep them in PA if they are non-compliant? PA may insist they be legal in the state in which the owner resides; i'm not sure how their stuff works.

If its Kosher, i can see it being a great idea... If AR's are banned i'd probably rent in PA, seeing as driving to PA to shoot is the same distance as me driving to ft dix to shoot.

Federal law requires a long gun purchased in another state be compliant with the laws of both states. If your a NJ resident the long gun you buy in PA be compliant with NJ law.

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capt14k    2,052

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Federal law requires a long gun purchased in another state be compliant with the laws of both states. If your a NJ resident the long gun you buy in PA be compliant with NJ law.

They were referring to ones already legally owned.

 

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Lambo2936    297

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They were referring to ones already legally owned.

 

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Well, we're talking about if there is an AWB in NJ; can we keep the now-banned and therefore non-compliant rifles in PA and still be legal?

Is the rule of it being compliant in both states only valid when purchasing NEW firearms??

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capt14k    2,052

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Well, we're talking about if there is an AWB in NJ; can we keep the now-banned and therefore non-compliant rifles in PA and still be legal?

Is the rule of it being compliant in both states only valid when purchasing NEW firearms??

Yes. PA could care less about NJ Draconian laws. Only reason buying non compliant rifle is an issue is because of Federal NICS check and Federal licensing. If the rifle is legal in PA it can remain in PA and no one is going to bother you.

 

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GRIZ    3,369

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Well, we're talking about if there is an AWB in NJ; can we keep the now-banned and therefore non-compliant rifles in PA and still be legal?

Is the rule of it being compliant in both states only valid when purchasing NEW firearms??

I know several people who moved their ARs, AKs, and other non-compliant rifles to their summer house in PA. NJ law stops at NJ borders. If you have something that becomes illegal in NJ you can move it to any state where it's legal.

 

On the other hand, say they ban all ARs in NJ. You as a NJ resident won't be able to buy any AR in PA as a NJ resident.

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T Bill    649

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Buy your stripped lowers now and sock 'em away.  Build them when you are ready out of state and keep them there. 

 

I know of a person who inherited his uncle's M1 carbine last year, a NJ banned item, beautiful Rockola.  Gun was in PA and he is a NJ resident.  Perfectly legal as long as gun stays out of NJ.

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siderman    1,138

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As a side discussion and I think it may have been dicussed before but not answered?...what about the legality of leaving a firearm in PA at family or friends house? Anyone know how PA would view that? Like what if a make an arrangement with a friend a rent a bedroom from him for a dollar, put a safe in it and now have a safehouse for my guns?

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As a side discussion and I think it may have been dicussed before but not answered?...what about the legality of leaving a firearm in PA at family or friends house? Anyone know how PA would view that? Like what if a make an arrangement with a friend a rent a bedroom from him for a dollar, put a safe in it and now have a safehouse for my guns?

Just form a trust with that person and you can keep your guns at that persons house as far as I know. someone correct me if im wrong please

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GRIZ    3,369

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As a side discussion and I think it may have been dicussed before but not answered?...what about the legality of leaving a firearm in PA at family or friends house? Anyone know how PA would view that? Like what if a make an arrangement with a friend a rent a bedroom from him for a dollar, put a safe in it and now have a safehouse for my guns?

If you put a safe in a friend's house and they did not have access to a key or combination no transfer has taken place. Same as a storage unit. No need for a phony dollar a year lease. No need for a trust.

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