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This might be a dumb question but I'm thinking this is not legal to own in Jersey.

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If it's transferred into NJ as a pistol via an FFL I think it's legal.  Or get it shipped to an address outside of NJ and pick it up, no FFL/purchase permit required.

You know it's a cap-primed muzzleloader, right?  It won't load/fire 12ga shells...

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I'd get a wrist and elbow orthopedic specialist on retainer if you're actually going to shoot it...

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42 minutes ago, david8613 said:

Capped primed muzzle loader? I'm not familiar with that, thought this was 12 gauge

Caliber: 12 Gauge – Conventional 209 Primer Breech Plug Design BP muzzleloader, suggested load 40gr ffg, 1/2 oz shot

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14 hours ago, DirtyDigz said:

If it's transferred into NJ as a pistol via an FFL I think it's legal.  Or get it shipped to an address outside of NJ and pick it up, no FFL/purchase permit required.

You know it's a cap-primed muzzleloader, right?  It won't load/fire 12ga shells...

Diablo-9-2-1.jpg

I'd get a wrist and elbow orthopedic specialist on retainer if you're actually going to shoot it...

 

35 minutes ago, fishnut said:

Caliber: 12 Gauge – Conventional 209 Primer Breech Plug Design BP muzzleloader, suggested load 40gr ffg, 1/2 oz shot

Recoil would be similar to 45 Long Colt.

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Keep an eye on the usual used gun sites.   This strikes me as the kind of gun, like any handgun much bigger than a .44 mag, that regularly shows up for sale, with the notation "fewer than 20 rounds fired".

 

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On 3/8/2019 at 1:14 PM, fishnut said:

Caliber: 12 Gauge – Conventional 209 Primer Breech Plug Design BP muzzleloader, suggested load 40gr ffg, 1/2 oz shot

@fishnut   Miss ya guy!  Yep, this example is nuthin' more than a cheaply-made breech-action "modern 209 knock-off" of a Howdah Pistol by Pedersoli in Italy.

To everyone on the thread:
Italian exports are proofed at EXTRA high pressure, so this beautiful Howdah can load twice what that knock-off can.  And THAT can be a real wrist-twister!  Howdah's were shot from Elephant Baskets (the Howdah!) to repel man-eaters in Africa & India, they didn't have 1/2 oz pussy loads, lol :)   

This 20 ga. double-barrel smoothie in the photo (no rifling for the non black powder crowd) uses standard #11 caps and the same nipples as my 10 ga. SxS scattergun (1/4 x 28 thread).  70 grains of FFFg pistol powder & 3/4 oz - 1.0 oz load of buck, ball or combination thereof (Referred to as "Buck & Ball" loading since the Rev War) will tame any man-eater or miscreant with TWO OR FOUR LEGS!

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Don't forget yer Pith Helmet :) 

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