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Anyone have a "Panic Room" ?

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Home invasions are on the rise big time in NJ. Anyone have a safe room / panic room or have you ever wanted one? It doesn't have to be as elaborate as the one in the movie, "Panic Room" but maybe just a bedroom or spare room with a good heavy door and a deadbolt where you can stick the family in case the SHTF?

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I don't have a special room, but we have a plan (which we used once before prior to having a gun in the house). Basically the wife locks herself in the bedroom with the dogs, calls the cops, while I go see what is going on. I would prefer to take a defensive stance near the bedroom in the hallway. In order to get to us there is only 1 stair case so it would be easier to cover, as opposed to roaming all over the house making all sorts of noise on my creaky wood floors.

 

-Tom

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Is it really that safe to be holed up inside? I would figure would be safer to have a safe way out of the house and away from the trouble.

 

When I took boxing and kickboxing for years, first thing we were taught is dont get pinned in a corner, eventually, someone will get in.

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There is a big difference in hand to hand combat and using a firearm in defense. If I am waging a frontal asault I would not put my back against a wall where I can not tacticaly withdraw( retreat ). A panic room is a last ditch resort.

 

The idea of a panic room is a secure place to hold up until help arrives or the intruder gives up and leaves. Now by narrowing their access points you create an area that they will have to come through which can easily be defended with a 12ga. Remember what an animal does when they are cornered. Picture a woman defending her children.

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Is it really that safe to be holed up inside? I would figure would be safer to have a safe way out of the house and away from the trouble.

 

When I took boxing and kickboxing for years, first thing we were taught is dont get pinned in a corner, eventually, someone will get in.

 

 

Muay Thai clinch, spin and put them in the corner.

 

If an intruder came in my house and didn't have a firearm he would be f***ed. I am 6'2 250lbs+ only 12 months of martial arts training in BJJ and Muay Thai, most of that time i trained with a competition black belt fighter.

 

The misses knows to stay in the bedroom with the dog and worse case is call the police.

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same thing... just dont forget that you cant duck bullets. My master is a 10th degree blackbelt in shindo ryu kickboxing, and president of the american kickboxing association, and even says... dont be a hero.

 

Hence why... a Mosin 91/30 with a bayo on it... is a pretty good home defense weapon.

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same thing... just dont forget that you cant duck bullets. My master is a 10th degree blackbelt in shindo ryu kickboxing, and president of the american kickboxing association, and even says... dont be a hero.

 

Hence why... a Mosin 91/30 with a bayo on it... is a pretty good home defense weapon.

 

A litle big for a CQB weapon, no?

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Home invasions are on the rise big time in NJ.

 

I don't believe this is true. Certainly official crime stats don't seem to back it up. Where is that data coming from?

 

The FBI's UCR (uniform crime report).

 

Here's a quote from the 2008 Preliminary FBI UCR:

 

Preliminary figures indicate that, as a whole, law enforcement agencies throughout the Nation reported a decrease of 3.5 percent in the number of violent crimes brought to their attention for the first six months of 2008 when compared with figures reported for the same time in 2007. The violent crime category includes murder, forcible rape, robbery, and aggravated assault. The number of property crimes in the United States from January to June of 2008 decreased 2.5 percent when compared with data from the same time period in 2007. Property crimes include burglary, larceny-theft, and motor vehicle theft. Arson is also a property crime, but data for arson are not included in property crime totals. Figures for 2008 indicate that arson decreased 5.6 percent in 2008 when compared to 2007 figures.

 

They don't have a category for Home Invasion on the data you can download in spreadsheets. Is that in "Violent Crime" "Property Crime" or "Burglary" or what?

 

If there is a more detailed breakdown I can't find it on the FBI website. The URL is:

 

http://www.fbi.gov/ucr/2008prelim/index.html

 

and the page with the spreadsheets are:

 

http://www.fbi.gov/ucr/2008prelim/downloads.htm

 

-Melgamatic

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The FBI UCR is usually a year or two old by the time data is compiled. And when reading them you need to keep it in per capita context. They use 100,000 data. If you just go by total numbers the crime mostly goes up because the population increases. If you keep it per 100,000 crime tends to go down. It is easy to manipulate statistics.

 

I have read and heard recent reports stating since the economy has gone to crap theft and home burglaries are on the rise.

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I don't think anyone here is in a state of panic. It is simply a term for the room. For sake of this thread not going into another galaxy perhaps we should call it a "safe room". Maybe I should have stated the question differently. Does anyone have a SAFE room for their wife / kids / fido to "retreat" to in case of an emergency (not limited to home invasions). My theory is to always be prepared instead of after the fact saying "I should have".

 

I understand not to believe everything you read but for the skeptics:

 

This victim is a friends father, note the two handguns that were stolen:

http://www.app.com/apps/pbcs.dll/articl ... 9905140345

 

Some good statistics here: http://southjersey.backpage.com/General ... id=2214089

 

http://www.nj.com/news/index.ssf/2009/0 ... d_bro.html

 

http://www.nj.com/news/index.ssf/2009/0 ... durin.html

 

http://blog.nj.com/timesupdates/2007/09 ... g_mor.html

 

http://www.nj.com/south/index.ssf/2009/ ... 8_dee.html

 

http://cbs3.com/topstories/Home.Invasio ... 40501.html

 

Here are a few from UNION COUNTY:

http://www.unioncountynj.org/prosecutor ... teliz.html

 

This one happened to a senator last month in Elizabeth...

http://www.unioncountynj.org/prosecutor ... teliz.html

 

http://www.nj.com/news/local/index.ssf/ ... bbery.html

 

 

There are plenty more where these came from.

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Safe room is a good term. Yes, I have one as every home should. A designated place with more reinforcement on the door,supplies, cell phone or battery operated CB. Not a bad idea at all. Just like a place outside the home should there be a fire.

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Yes safe room is a good term.

 

Assuming we still have the time to do so,

 

Retreat to master BR. Lock the solid door ... and put door jammer in place. Call 911.

 

Retreat further into master bathroom, lock solid door ... and put door jammer in place.

 

Listen, wait, prepare - code red.

 

If bad guy breaches first door, rest of the family exit window, use emergency ladder.

 

I take a stand and rain bullets. :evil:

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thought I'd bump this thread

 

A "Safe" room would be for my wife and baby if she was by herself. She'd grab the baby, lock herself in the bedroom, get the pistol and call 9-1-1. My wife is Pacific Islander and grew up in Hawaii where everyone fought. She's got that fight instinct and I wouldn't want to try and break in with her in the house. If I was home then she would do her thing with the baby and I would get the shotgun and stay outside. I'm not locking myself in my bedroom while some @sshole is going threw my stuff, he's dead.

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I have no neighbours,no street lights,no local police,i can shout,scream outside and basically nobody is coming to help for awhile,state police have never got here under 30 mins.

I have a House alarm,remote monitoring call center,one side keyed dead locks,motion detectors,every room in the house has locking doors and a weapon hidden away,Some may say it's over kill .

 

I think of my house as my safe room.

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