Maksim 1,504 Posted July 2, 2009 Went into effingers today to buy some ammo, so naturally went to oggle over the gun case. They had a decent selection, albeit far from packed. they had glocks, smiths, sigs, beretta's. From the smiths, they had the M&P line and the sigma guns. If you spent anywhere near what i think some of you do in terms of time here on the board or at gun stores.... you might of hear of the "profound" trigger on the sigma series. I personally heard of this... though never played with one at the range, or fondled one in a store... until today. My impression, oh my, azohen vei (for the yidish jew crew), the trigger is like a rock. Even in single action..... the trigger pull on it, is worse than the trigger pull on any double action revolver.... i mean you had to realllllllllly go at it for the trigger. i couldnt believe it. I asked the guy behind the counter if he shot or held it... and he stated he didnt, at which point I asked him to try it. he was astonished. there has to be something that can be done for the trigger. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
tbtrout 141 Posted July 2, 2009 I am going to look into Sigma trigger fixes or at least come up with one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
javin70 0 Posted July 2, 2009 Went into effingers today to buy some ammo, so naturally went to oggle over the gun case. They had a decent selection, albeit far from packed. they had glocks, smiths, sigs, beretta's. From the smiths, they had the M&P line and the sigma guns. If you spent anywhere near what i think some of you do in terms of time here on the board or at gun stores.... you might of hear of the "profound" trigger on the sigma series. I personally heard of this... though never played with one at the range, or fondled one in a store... until today. My impression, oh my, azohen vei (for the yidish jew crew), the trigger is like a rock. Even in single action..... the trigger pull on it, is worse than the trigger pull on any double action revolver.... i mean you had to realllllllllly go at it for the trigger. i couldnt believe it. I asked the guy behind the counter if he shot or held it... and he stated he didnt, at which point I asked him to try it. he was astonished. there has to be something that can be done for the trigger. Azohen Vei lol you crack me up nice to have another Russian brother on the board lol we found a guy who does S&W warranty work he said he can smooth out the trigger action under warranty which would drop the trigger pull from 12 lbs to about 10 lbs in SA but i don't think that is going to make too much of a difference Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Malsua 1,422 Posted July 2, 2009 12lbs in SA? Ouch. I really don't like my P30 in DA and that's at 11.4. It's 4.5 in SA which is just fine. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ray Ray 3,566 Posted July 3, 2009 That gun in 40 cal hurts my hand! I thought the trigger was hard but I didn't know it was 12 pounds! That gun sucks! sorry guys just venting. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
tbtrout 141 Posted July 3, 2009 I played with one tonight. The trigger is horrible. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
tony357 386 Posted July 3, 2009 that is horrible.. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dozer 0 Posted July 3, 2009 I have looked at some of the Sigmas new out of the box and found that the trigger pull varied on a few of them with some not bad and others somewhat heavy.Read that some have sent them back to S&W for a gritty trigger pull and they were smoothed out a bit.Spend some time do a google search and you will find a lot of info on the Sigmas. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
PK90 3,573 Posted July 3, 2009 The Sigma is a DAO pistol. IMO, the trigger pull weight and travel length is close to many revolvers. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ray Ray 3,566 Posted July 1, 2010 Another Bump cause I'm crazy! Smith has a new Sigma pistol that's kinda a cross between a Sigma and an M&P. (Picture a M&P slide with a Sigma frame) It's priced in between both I don't get it though, it feels just like a Sigma and uses the same magazines. Shoulda bumped up the quality of an M&P instead of going the cheaper route. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
67gtonut 847 Posted July 1, 2010 The new S&W series is not a Sigma...... From a member of the M&P forum who called S&W.... Just got off of the phone with S&W. According to the rep, S&W is producing three differen pistols; the SW (SIgma), the SD, and the M&P series. Each series is mechanically unique. The M&P action was refered to as a "quick action", the Sigma a DAO and the SD as a hybrid. According to the rep, the SD series cannot be tweaked to improve the trigger feel. Already a couple of the guys on the M&P forum are planning to try and tweak the new SD series trigger.......... From what I have gathered...... the Sigma series trigger is NOT "tweakable"...... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ray Ray 3,566 Posted July 1, 2010 I felt one out at Caso's a few days ago. It's nothing spectacular, just a piece from one gun and a piece from another. I wasn't sure what the name was but SD is correct. Service Duty? Self Defense? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
67gtonut 847 Posted July 1, 2010 I felt one out at Caso's a few days ago. It's nothing spectacular, just a piece from one gun and a piece from another. I wasn't sure what the name was but SD is correct. Service Duty? Self Defense? Self Defense series.... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Pizza Bob 1,488 Posted July 1, 2010 S&W makes a great REVOLVER Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Wolfy 51 Posted July 1, 2010 SD sexual disease?? Sigma and value line are the two series I avoid. All the other semi's and pistols are of the highest quality. You want a nice gun buy from the Pro Series. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Pew Pew Plates 358 Posted July 1, 2010 Went into effingers today to buy some ammo... Why the hell would you go there for ammo!?!?! PS I live like 5 min away from there. And I never go there because I hate em. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
djg0770 481 Posted July 1, 2010 Azohen Vei lol you crack me up nice to have another Russian brother on the board lol we found a guy who does S&W warranty work he said he can smooth out the trigger action under warranty which would drop the trigger pull from 12 lbs to about 10 lbs in SA but i don't think that is going to make too much of a difference You guys crack me up! Two Russians walk into a bar and complain about the trigger pull on an American handgun - start of a great joke there, ending of course with the 13 lb pull of the Nagant revolver... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites