tbtrout 141 Posted August 15, 2010 I was in BA tonight shooting with my son and Bob showed me a letter form the State, stating that the Auto Ordinance M1 Carbine is LEGAL fro sale. They do not have any, but are taking orders. Price is $850. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
PK90 3,573 Posted August 15, 2010 Interesting. I will call the NJSP on Monday to verify. If so, this could open the flood gates. ETA: You saw the letter? Who was it from? Any particulars? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Caine 147 Posted August 15, 2010 That's gonna make for some interesting conversations at the range. Hope he includes a copy of that letter with every sale Price seems a bit high tho... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
tbtrout 141 Posted August 15, 2010 Interesting. I will call the NJSP on Monday to verify. If so, this could open the flood gates. ETA: You saw the letter? Who was it from? Any particulars? Not sure of any names, but I did read the letter, and it was specific for the auto ordinance with the walnut stock, no bayo lug. They had signs up for ordering. I should have spent more time looking at it but my son was itching to shoot. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Larain60 1 Posted August 15, 2010 I hope this comes through for you guys. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
FFDP82 4 Posted August 15, 2010 Price seems a bit high tho... It's a gun that hasn't been allowed in NJ in 20 years, so expect the dealers to RAPE the pricing. Best bet would be to Gunbroker one and transfer it to an FFL, while explaining to the FFL NJSP's newest interpretation of the law. That, or buy it in PA. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Wolfy 51 Posted August 15, 2010 Best bet for an FFL is Tony. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Radek 73 Posted August 15, 2010 Would be good to have a copy of the letter from NJSP to take/show NJ FFL. Whoever is going to BA, please make a copy, scan and post link so it can be printed! (I can't until after next week) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Radek 73 Posted August 15, 2010 btw. is this letter limited to one brand "Auto Ordinance" only? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
coldsolderjoint 84 Posted August 15, 2010 oh god, im gunna have to win some money on the ship Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Radek 73 Posted August 15, 2010 oh god, im gunna have to win some money on the ship The Casino Royale! Well, play Blackjack and ... don't drink! and Win some! Good luck and don't lose your shirt! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Radek 73 Posted August 15, 2010 Finding plenty on GB. Will be bidding soon ... But before I commit, which brand is approved? Please post when you know. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
matty 810 Posted August 15, 2010 http://www.auto-ordnance.com/PA-1AO_m1.html Must be this one, on top, MSRP of $899 :shock: I would love to see the letter and see the reason behind ok-ing the AA repro vs. the M1A milsurp. I'd think it cant be just based on the bayonet lug, must be some other differences. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
KpdPipes 388 Posted August 15, 2010 http://www.auto-ordnance.com/PA-1AO_m1.html Must be this one, on top, MSRP of $899 :shock: I would love to see the letter and see the reason behind ok-ing the AA repro vs. the M1A milsurp. I'd think it cant be just based on the bayonet lug, must be some other differences. because the Model number is "AOM130" and the reciever is probably marked that way and does not read "US M-1 Carbine" Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
PK90 3,573 Posted August 15, 2010 They are all marked "US Carbine", "Cal 30 M1". Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
njpilot 671 Posted August 15, 2010 I was in BA tonight shooting with my son and Bob showed me a letter form the State, stating that the Auto Ordinance M1 Carbine is LEGAL fro sale. They do not have any, but are taking orders. Price is $850. Troublemaker :mrgreen: Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Melgamatic 66 Posted August 15, 2010 So, have any of our forum FFL's confirmed the NJSP letter? If so, I'm buying one immediately! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
KpdPipes 388 Posted August 15, 2010 They are all marked "US Carbine", "Cal 30 M1". Picky Picky,, you know what i meant.. Are the new manufactured AO's the same way? Since it's also on the website as "California legal" are they banned by name in Ca as well? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
PK90 3,573 Posted August 15, 2010 Are the new manufactured AO's the same way? Markings include the following: Auto-Ordnance, Worcester, MA behind the rear sight; U.S. Carbine, Cal. 30 ML on the receiver in front of the bolt and the serial number is engraved on the left side of the receiver.Since it's also on the website as "California legal" are they banned ny mane in Ca as well? Banned List from what I can determine Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BMWR12 35 Posted August 15, 2010 keepin my fingers crossed Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
tbtrout 141 Posted August 15, 2010 Ok, went back with my son tonight shooting. The letter was from the NJSP Firearms Unit. I did not read it again, but asked who is was from. Paul is right on a fair price. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Radek 73 Posted August 16, 2010 Letter applies to M1 made recently by Auto Ordinance only? If so, that's just too bad! I wish they would allow ANY M1 if it says "M1 CARBINE CAL 30". :cry: Understood, if bayo lug is present, it will need to be ground off by a NJ FFL. :cry: There are very nice M1's made by many other manufacturers: Winchester, Plainfield (Dunellen, NJ!), Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
FFDP82 4 Posted August 16, 2010 Would the bayo lug really need to get ground off? No pistol grip, no threads, no grenade/flare launcher, fixed stock. So with a detachable magazine and bayonet lug wouldn't the Auto Ordnance one be kosher even if it had a bayonet lug? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
matty 810 Posted August 16, 2010 Ah, OK, I guess the re-interpretatin' of NJ firearms law by the AG and NJSP went our way this time. I have not shot or know anyone who has an AA Carbine, are they any good? One can get 2 or 3 SKS's for $7-800 Ok, went back with my son tonight shooting. The letter was from the NJSP Firearms Unit. I did not read it again, but asked who is was from. Paul is right on a fair price. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The_Matrix 105 Posted August 16, 2010 I can't sleep tonight. Someone get an answer by tomorrow! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Melgamatic 66 Posted August 16, 2010 They're available on gunbroker for $685 buy it now, plus shipping, plus FFL, so mid-7's is about right. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
tbtrout 141 Posted August 16, 2010 Buds $681 shipped Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Wolfy 51 Posted August 16, 2010 Tony how much? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Radek 73 Posted August 16, 2010 Read this. This is just a sample of one review, but clearly there are QC issues from what I read on the net... Even a honest GB post on a AO says the "factory" mags don't fit! Now we need a guinea pig! :snooty: Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites