Buying A Lower From A Friend

[MarkWVU02 47]

My friend purchased some lowers and I plan on taking one off his hands. What forms would need to be filled out between the two of us to make this legal? thanks in advance for the help

[KpdPipes 388]

Good question....especially since ATF considers a Lower as an "Other" rather than a handgun or Long Gun on the 4473. INAL, but I would Assume that you would just both fill out a Certificate of Elligibility, as you would for any other long gun. I personally would add an endorsement to the COE stating that the purchaser would not attemt to make a Pistol out of it...but that's just Me.

[njJoniGuy 2,131]

As long as the lowers are for LONG ARMS, all you need is a pair of completed Certificate(s) of Eligibility

Buyer and Seller each keep one

The State is none-the-wiser.

[Pizza Bob 1,488]

I believe that since it is an "other" it has to go through an FFL - regardless of whether or not there is a stock on it or not.

 

Paul will probably chime in with the correct info.

 

Adios,

 

Pizza Bob

[Dan 177]

Info on AR lowers in this thread : http://njgunforums.com/forum/index.php?/topic/27098-registering-an-ar-lower-receiver-as-a-pistol/

[vladtepes 1,060]

NJ defines handgun.. and they define long gun..

 

a lower IS a firearm.. so if that firearm has a stock and is intended to be fired from the shoulder then it should be a long gun because NJ specifically defines both and a "lower with a stock" or "a firearm with a stock" is not designed to fired with one hand.. thus not a handgun by NJ law.... also it is not like you can build a NJ legal AR pistol anyway..

 

unless there is some specific NJ law regarding lowers I am not aware of..

 

 

Handgun" means any pistol, revolver, or other firearm originally designed or manufactured to be fired by the use of

a single hand.

 

"Rifle" means any firearm designed to be fired from the shoulder and using the energy of the explosive in a fixed

metallic cartridge to fire a single projectile through a rifled bore for each single pull of the trigger.

[MarkWVU02 47]

Well it's going to be built into a long gun regardless...not too interested in AR pistols. It's one of my best friends so there's really no worries about what's going to happen once I have possession. I built one and got the itch to do another...maybe try doing something different. I actually inspired him and another friend to build their own. I guess we'll both do COE's unless someone else chimes in that tells me otherwise.

[Jon 264]

I've always just done COEs.

[Maksim 1,504]

Fine fine, here is what you do.

 

If you are concerned. Slap on a stock, or an upper to the stripped lower. Buy it from your buddy, then if he wants to buy the upper from you, he can do that.

 

I dont believe there are any issues with lowers in NJ. the issue is with ATF transfers, out of state. You can't buy a stripped lower face to face out of state in PA, because it is not a complete firearm. It is an ATF issue, not a NJ issue.

[PK90 3,570]

One also needs to be 21 to purchase a receiver from a dealer, as it is not a long gun. FTF does not matter. 18 is the minimum age.

[Maksim 1,504]

Paul, my understanding is correct otherwise?

[PK90 3,570]

Yes, COE is good. No stock necessary.

[david8613 69]

did this, filled out Coe papers, no problems what's so ever, gtg...

[Krdshrk 3,877]

I've done it before with just a CoE.

[Pizza Bob 1,488]

Sorry for the misinformation. Just dawned on me that I was basing my answer on an interstate purchase of a complete lower with A2 stock. At the time I thought I'd just be able to purchase at the dealer and take it home. I was surprised to learn that it had to be delivered through an FFL in my resident state. Mis-applied that experience.

 

Adios,

 

Pizza Bob

[MarkWVU02 47]

Thanks for the help guys I appreciate it. Can't wait to start AR #2