BlueLineFish 615 Posted May 12, 2012 Great time today. Can't believe how empty it was. Had a blast with the saiga minus the mag changes. Damn nj restrictions. Hopefully I am off for the next one. Gonna try OBRAMS on Saturday Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
hd2000fxdl 422 Posted May 12, 2012 Good seeing everyone, nice day, and if anyone has video of me, erase it.. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ray Ray 3,566 Posted May 12, 2012 How did the KSG do!?! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
M4BGRINGO 139 Posted May 12, 2012 Ray ray ray ray........... You didn't get to try the KSG, BUT WE DID!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I put 5 round in it, fired them off, figured-out how the selector worked and put 5 in each tube, went through them like a fat kid in a candy store! Jon was nice enough to take the red dot off his awesome I have no-clue what kinda carbine it is (he kicked my a** with it today) and put it on Joes KSG. I couldn't believe it was dead-on. The KSG seems strange, very, very short gun. Really gotta get yout face right on top of it, but I hit all the targets I shot at with it. Certainly not like shooting your typical shotgun, but it ran with no problems! Thanks for bringing it Blue Line! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BlueLineFish 615 Posted May 12, 2012 Glad all the cool kids got to play with the new toy..sorry ray ray. I was amazed how accurate the red dot was as well. Now i can add that red dot to my accessory short list. That list is as short as my to buy gun list. Oh and jons retro caliber carbine was awesome. Maybe i will get a makarov carbine to your tokarev carbine. Lol. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
M4BGRINGO 139 Posted May 13, 2012 What was Jon shooting? I tried looking for one but did not see it. Custom gun? Shot so smoothly, swapping mags seemed strange, but maybe I didn't know what I was doing. Getting on-target though was awesome. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BlueLineFish 615 Posted May 13, 2012 You mean the AR you shot. It was a custom that shot 7.62 by 25 tokarev ammo. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JonF 79 Posted May 13, 2012 Mike, it was somewhat of a custom build (ie. the complete rifle isn't sold as-is). I basically bought a complete upper (and mags) from these guys below and put it on a carbine lower i already had from my .223 rifle. I did change some things on the tokarev upper such as adding a free float handguard, red dot and the AFG to customize it to my ergo's and usage but that's about it. The beauty of it is that since its just an standard gas impingement AR15, all the AR parts and stuff are compatible for customizing and tuning to your preference and purpose. I bought it for a cheap plinker when the Tok ammo was still cheap but although the cheap tok ammo has dried up for the time being, it seems to suit this role fairly well. http://www.cncgunsparts.com/ar-15_m-16_762x25_uppers Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
M4BGRINGO 139 Posted May 13, 2012 I would like to shoot that gun and a 9mm carbine side by side to compare them sometime. Your gun has so little recoil it was such a pleasure to shoot. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JonF 79 Posted May 14, 2012 Hey Joe, does your shoulder look like hamburger meat after all that shotgun shootin! The keltec was like salt in the wound after that. Lol I finally put together the footage of the rifle cam. The wide fisheye lens makes stuff look a lot farther than it was though but you can watch it in hd to crank up the size and see the plates. I definitely picked up the pace in stages 4 and 5 and am already anxiously awaiting the next one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BlueLineFish 615 Posted May 14, 2012 Yesterday my shoulder was so sore. The non optic hold on the keltec was terrible. Your red dot may have saved my shoulder. I was actually sore on Sunday. Lol. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
M4BGRINGO 139 Posted May 14, 2012 You guys need to do more shotgun shooting, nothing bothers my shoulder. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
M4BGRINGO 139 Posted May 14, 2012 Jon, you certainly got quicker with the mag changes as the match went on. Watching your video reminds me of Drag Racing. Wait-around a whole lot just for a few seconds of fun! Don't know if I can pickup any more speed with my CX4 to try and match you, it's going to be tough. Just wait 'till Elvis comes back out with us, it's going to be a very tough match between the three of us. I will load ALL of my mags with 10 rounds next time!!!!! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BlueLineFish 615 Posted May 14, 2012 You guys need to do more shotgun shooting, nothing bothers my shoulder. You are right. To train I am going to put 3" magnums in the keltec. It's rated for magnum so we will see Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ray Ray 3,566 Posted May 14, 2012 Great video Jon, that little carbine is a good little shooter. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JonF 79 Posted May 14, 2012 That keltec needs a simple flat or downward angled butt pad to be more comfortable since that gun rides so high on your shoulder. those concave points look like some kind of 1800's flintlock target rifle torture device! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BlueLineFish 615 Posted May 14, 2012 Ever since Saturday I have been looking into new butt pads Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JonF 79 Posted May 14, 2012 I think I need some kind of mag coupler for these old pps mags. The just don't funnel easily into the sub caliber magazine block in the ar15 receiver and I keep fumbling the mag loads. You can literally hear it in the video with all the clicking and clacking of metal on metal during the reloads. Lol. Other than that, she runs pretty good when I don't get a 60 year old dud. Hopefully Elvis and others will join us at the next one. I think I like the carbine class better than pistol! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BlueLineFish 615 Posted May 14, 2012 I miight have to break out the hi point carbine next time Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sivl32 27 Posted May 14, 2012 Man it looks like i missed another good one.. fugg my job for preventing me from enjoying myself. and we recently had quits and fires, the request book is full for weekend.. they are making it impossible for me. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Krdshrk 3,877 Posted May 14, 2012 You guys need to do more shotgun shooting, nothing bothers my shoulder. You shoot so much shotgun your shoulder's all calloused anyway Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
M4BGRINGO 139 Posted May 14, 2012 Jon, I almost could not believe how fast you shoot that handgun with iron sights. You were a whole second slower than me with my carbine and red dot. I want to see how your score compares to some of the guys shooting open handguns. I know you beat a lot of them! Nick, my wife will tell you I shoot my shotguns too much, I don't think it's possible since I don't do it everyday. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JonF 79 Posted May 14, 2012 Man it looks like i missed another good one.. fugg my job for preventing me from enjoying myself. and we recently had quits and fires, the request book is full for weekend.. they are making it impossible for me. Yeah, fugg them! Work less, shoot more. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JonF 79 Posted May 14, 2012 Jon, I almost could not believe how fast you shoot that handgun with iron sights. You were a whole second slower than me with my carbine and red dot. I want to see how your score compares to some of the guys shooting open handguns. I know you beat a lot of them! Lol, i dunno about beating the open guys; at least not the good ones. I did have that one good pistol run towards the end though. Curious to see how that stacks up. When do they generally post the scores for this club? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
alec.mc 180 Posted May 14, 2012 typically about a week or so... prob. faster this time around since their were not a ton of people there. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sivl32 27 Posted May 15, 2012 Just spend a 2 hours cleaning my carbine near spot less pulling extractor and all, used a lighter and a few cleaners. got to take it to the range and test it to see if I still have problems ejecting. Son of a **** better not. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
M4BGRINGO 139 Posted May 15, 2012 Elvis, is that the upper conversion piece for a Glock handgun? Jon, I would bet money that on some stages you placed as well as the top five in open. I really want to see how you did, I was impressed. I will bring my 610 next time so when I shoot as slow as molasses in January I will use the 6-shooter as my excuse. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
M4BGRINGO 139 Posted May 15, 2012 Hey, what did you guys think of that Texas Star? I thought it was cool. First time I ever got to shoot one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BlueLineFish 615 Posted May 15, 2012 I liked it. Was my first time shooting one as well. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sivl32 27 Posted May 15, 2012 my carbine is not an AR conversion its from here http://www.justrightcarbines.com/ the trigger kit is standard ar parts but not the lower or upper Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites