MosinRob 1 Posted September 9, 2012 a buddy of mine asked if the 15rd mag law also applies to tubes like on a .22. If he loads it with shorts or another type he's way over. How do these guns stand? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Cemeterys Gun Blob 165 Posted September 9, 2012 a buddy of mine asked if the 15rd mag law also applies to tubes like on a .22. If he loads it with shorts or another type he's way over. How do these guns stand? 15round law only applies to semi auto's If you're talking about 'mag tube' then it sounds like a lever gun, and in that case, you can fill it up and let 'er rip!! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Johnny 0 Posted September 9, 2012 It only applies to semi auto Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
specopsscout 26 Posted September 9, 2012 There are .22 caliber semiautos that feel from a tubular magazine under the barrel, and yes the law applies to them. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Wojo 98 Posted September 9, 2012 Lots of older tublar feed 17 shot 22lr, semi auto's are out still there. In free states, they would've been a nice first rifle. Here in NJ, you are setting them up to be a felon and a potential domestic terrorist as defined by the MSM. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
djg0770 481 Posted September 9, 2012 Lots of older tublar feed 17 shot 22lr, semi auto's are out still there. In free states, they would've been a nice first rifle. Here in NJ, you are setting them up to be a felon and a potential domestic terrorist as defined by the MSM. What Wojo said. 22 Tube fed semi-autos that are marked short, long, long rifle are often capable of holding way more than 15 shorts making the owner a (potential) felon. Here's Paul Mulshine's article on this stupidity: http://blog.nj.com/n...great_idea.html And this is what I was searching for which explains how one owner ran afoul of the law: http://smallestminor...this-to-be.html Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TheDon 3 Posted September 9, 2012 There is a very simple modification that you can make to your inner tube that will make you good to go. Then, you can replace your inner tube when you escape to America. No need to worry about .22 shorts or longs unless your semiauto will operate with them (somehing I have never seen). Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MosinRob 1 Posted September 9, 2012 thanks guys Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MosinRob 1 Posted September 9, 2012 oh and yes he does have a lever Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
pjd832 146 Posted September 9, 2012 So a semi auto saiga 12 nj legal mag capacity is 15? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
n4p226r 105 Posted September 9, 2012 semi-auto shotgun is limited to a magazine with a capacity of 6 rounds Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Wikkie2204 0 Posted September 9, 2012 I don't believe so, I think SA shotguns are limited well below 15. I'm sure someone can chime in with chapter and verse of the specific law. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
PK90 3,570 Posted September 9, 2012 NJS 2C:39-1w(3) "Assault Weapon" means a semi-automatic shotgun with either a magazine capacity exceeding six rounds, a pistol grip, or a folding stock. NJS 2C:39-1w(4) "Assault Weapon" means a semi-automatic rifle with a fixed magazine capacity exceeding 15 rounds. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
djg0770 481 Posted September 9, 2012 No need to worry about .22 shorts or longs unless your semiauto will operate with them (somehing I have never seen). Now you've seen one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TheDon 3 Posted September 9, 2012 (edited) Now you've seen one. What is that? How the heck does it cycle with a short? ETA: If I am not mistaken, a mag that holds 15 LR will hold 24 shorts. How is THAT ^^^ not a deadly assault firearm? Edited September 9, 2012 by TheDon Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TK421 2 Posted September 9, 2012 Now you've seen one. What make/model is that? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
djg0770 481 Posted September 9, 2012 What is that? How the heck does it cycle with a short? ETA: If I am not mistaken, a mag that holds 15 LR will hold 24 shorts. How is THAT ^^^ not a deadly assault firearm? Who said it holds 15 LR? Or that it hasn't been modified to not hold more than 15 of anything? Go wag your finger elsewhere. Not to mention it was bought from an NJGF FFL. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
djg0770 481 Posted September 9, 2012 What is that? It's a rifle. How the heck does it cycle with a short? It pushes the (fairly light) bolt back. As you can see on the roll mark, they recommend hi velocity ammo only, though I have had no problem with low velocity 22LR in it. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TheDon 3 Posted September 9, 2012 Who said it holds 15 LR? Or that it hasn't been modified to not hold more than 15 of anything? Go wag your finger elsewhere. Not to mention it was bought from an NJGF FFL. UGH! I was making fun of how NJ could consider a rifle that shoots .22 shorts as an "Assault Firearm." Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
djg0770 481 Posted September 9, 2012 UGH! I was making fun of how NJ could consider a rifle that shoots .22 shorts as an "Assault Firearm." Ahh crap I missed the humor. My Bad.... Post #18 above though was my attempt at humor. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TK421 2 Posted September 10, 2012 It's a rifle. Well that was helpful... Looks like a Sears model 25 http://www.auctionflex.com/showlot.ap?co=23708&weiid=4047092〈=En Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Wojo 98 Posted September 10, 2012 My father had a JC Higgins (Sears) that looked very similar. 17 rounds of 22LR only. I wonder if my tool of a brother still has it. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
galapoola 102 Posted September 10, 2012 I bought a Marlin 60 semi varient from a dealer in PA. I asked the guy if it took more than 15 in the tube. He didn't know and sold me the rifle. I got home and was able to load 17 or 18 22LR. My solution was a brass plug in the part you take out. It is pinned not soldered but you'd need a drift punch and an appropriate bock to remove it without damage. Now this older rifle takes only 15 in the tube. For about a week I was a terrorist with a dangerous assualt rifle. I also have a very old Mossberg 22 bolt (doesn't even have a serial number) that takes seven 22LR and 22 shorts with the factory original mag. I picked up an Triple K extended mag a while back that the package states is a 10 round magazine. It takes 18 or 19 rounds. I thought I was a criminal but quickly re-read the statute and it does say the round limit is for semi-auto. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
martinsc 0 Posted December 29, 2012 So you can have the rifle with a tube that can hold more than 15 rounds, as long as you don't have the tube with the spring and the follower that feeds the rounds into the rifle. Correct? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites