Barms 98 Posted December 21, 2012 Don't bother with the "you get what you pay for".. clearly this would not be called exceptional, but is a tap really adequate? I will not name the brand yet, some guys on here i have PM'd and know.. i'm just looking to get thoughts is this so bad i should send back immediately. In my google searches on this company i have seen Youtube videos (about 6 months ago) comparing different company's stake jobs and this company was much much better than mine pictured below. I'm afraid quality might be going down in the demand that's going on. Yes, i know you get what you pay for. But the upside is at least i got me a rifle before the sellouts! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Zerosignal 1 Posted December 21, 2012 I would say that staking looks pretty lite. I would give it a better staking. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Turbotezza 1 Posted December 21, 2012 Staking is only effective if the material is pushed into the screw or vice versa. As far as I can tell from those pics, they did a half assed job. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
pjd832 146 Posted December 21, 2012 congrats on picking one up before the end of em and wow thats a pretty sad stake..lol Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Zerosignal 1 Posted December 21, 2012 I am curious who's bcg that is though.. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NJKen 23 Posted December 21, 2012 Mine looks nothing like that. I will have to get a picture up to compare with. Ken Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
HKHockey 5 Posted December 21, 2012 Some BCGs do not need staking at all. Not sure if that is even a staking or just alignment marks? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Turbotezza 1 Posted December 21, 2012 There no need for alignment marks on the gas key. AR15 DGI gas keys are all similar and it's not a matter if they need or not need staking, it's just that some assemblers/companies think staking of the gas key isn't necessary. Some BCGs do not need staking at all. Not sure if that is even a staking or just alignment marks? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
lunker 274 Posted December 21, 2012 See chart below. Cheaper brands don't do it. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
deni 16 Posted December 21, 2012 it's the chart! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
HKHockey 5 Posted December 21, 2012 I thought some of the newer colts didnt need staking because of how they redesigned the bcg? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Barms 98 Posted December 21, 2012 that BCG is from a brand new Stag Arms model 3.. (without the Plus Package). i'm undecided if i will inquire with them about the quality.. or just figure out how to stake it myself (which i have no idea.. hammer??) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NJKen 23 Posted December 22, 2012 that BCG is from a brand new Stag Arms model 3.. (without the Plus Package). i'm undecided if i will inquire with them about the quality.. or just figure out how to stake it myself (which i have no idea.. hammer??) Mine is definitely staked better than yours. The list above says they are not properly staked ? I dont think I agree with on mine but yours fits the bill. I still dont think it would hurt to at least drop an email to them about it. Ken Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MidwestPX 172 Posted December 22, 2012 that BCG is from a brand new Stag Arms model 3.. (without the Plus Package). i'm undecided if i will inquire with them about the quality.. or just figure out how to stake it myself (which i have no idea.. hammer??) Find someone local with a MOACKS Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Turbotezza 1 Posted December 22, 2012 I'm one for staking the bolts lengthwise, down the centerline of the key instead of the more common side to side approach. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JackDaWack 2,895 Posted December 22, 2012 That chart is misleading, my RRA is staked to the point i doubt i could take it apart with out destroying it. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
johnp 45 Posted December 22, 2012 Geez, that is worse then half-assed. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
raz-0 1,259 Posted December 22, 2012 Geez, that is worse then half-assed. No. Half assed is where they stake it and miss the screws. You can't fix that. You don't like this, just stake then yourself. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
blackh8552 0 Posted December 22, 2012 this is what it should look like from stag http://imgur.com/KNQdf so if it doesn't I would contact them or stake it yourself Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Barms 98 Posted December 23, 2012 Black8552... yes.. that's what i would have expected.. that looks like others i saw online.. i'm thinking about sending them the pic and seeing if they say send it in.. i'm sure they will.. but who knows how long it will take to get back with all that's going on.. i'm a pretty handy guy, not afraid to attempt it myself.. just dont want to screw up any warranty issues.. what gets fouled up in the rifle if i have a gas key malfunction? are there major damage ramifications? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
alowerlevel 77 Posted December 23, 2012 what gets fouled up in the rifle if i have a gas key malfunction? are there major damage ramifications? Well if the key comes loose and starts leaking gas you could have issues ranging anywhere from short stroking to not cycling at all (at which time you now have a bolt action rifle, lol) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
KpdPipes 388 Posted December 24, 2012 Some BCGs do not need staking at all. Not sure if that is even a staking or just alignment marks? Bulls...not EVRY BGC needs the key to be staked. If it isnt staked it WILL Loosen up and leak gas. I have seen subpar staking on gas keys from just about Every manufacturer...INCLUDING Colt. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
KpdPipes 388 Posted December 24, 2012 I'm one for staking the bolts lengthwise, down the centerline of the key instead of the more common side to side approach. I've seen crappy staking done from that angle as well..staking done from the sides with a proper tool can be done by a chimpanzee, staking lengthwise takes a cold chisel, and skill. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
checko 180 Posted December 24, 2012 Hmmm. I'm gonna have to go check my stag bcg now. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NJKen 23 Posted December 24, 2012 this is what it should look like from stag http://imgur.com/KNQdf so if it doesn't I would contact them or stake it yourself Thats what mine looks like. Ken Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JackDaWack 2,895 Posted December 24, 2012 I've seen crappy staking done from that angle as well..staking done from the sides with a proper tool can be done by a chimpanzee, staking lengthwise takes a cold chisel, and skill. while i agree, at least a poor staking that way you will notice if it has loosened when inspecting your BCG, a poor pinch staking will not be noticeable. My RRA is a pinch staking that looks like the above pic, i dunno if you would even be able to take it apart, My WOA is across the screws. I have no idea which is better, but at least across the screws you will be able to see if the screw is turning if the notches dont line up. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites