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[jamesbod 0]

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Cryan to Introduce Legislation to Limit Size of Ammunition Clips

 

by: deciminyan

 

Wed Dec 26, 2012 at 04:49:22 PM EST

Today, Assemblyman Joe Cryan announced that he will introduce legislation to limit the legal number of rounds in an ammunition clip to five. I spoke by phone with Cryan this afternoon to get some of the details.

Currently, the legal limit is fifteen rounds and I asked him if possession of clips with that capacity would be grandfathered. He indicated that this would be one of many subjects of the debate as the bill progresses. Already, he said, he has received push back on this simple, common-sense bill from citizens and fellow legislators. But he said, "the whole idea here is to have a reflective debate" in light of the events in Newtown and elsewhere. He recognized the Connecticut teachers as heroes and wants to do whatever can be done to slow down or impede the inevitable shooters of the future.

Cryan indicated that this will be the first in a series of bills that will include addressing of ammunition sales, identification of ammunition, and other related topics - to be introduced in mid-January.

His approach will not only consider sensible gun regulations, but also mental health issues and a good look at the "games that desensitize violence."

Of course, even if New Jersey implements strict gun control laws, it's easy to bring in these killing machines from other states. Cryan recognized Senator Frank Lautenberg as a driving force for sensible gun laws across the nation. "We need to have a full discussion" on sizes of magazines and availability of assault weapons across the board. He pointed out that these initiatives do not impinge on Second Amendment rights for law-abiding citizens.

I'm happy that Cryan is taking the lead on this initiative. (Senator Weinberg alsowrote about gun control laws in her diary on Monday.) Now, we need other legislators to join them in working to make sure that we don't experience a Newtown massacre in New Jersey. Cryan's proposals do make sense, and anylegitimate gun owner should sign on and support these initiatives which will protect, not impinge, on, their interests.

[alec.mc 180]

It's frustrating that they cant propose a single piece of legislation without mentioning the newtown shooting.

[GlassFanta 0]

Article is a month old

[Shane45 807]

Sensible for who?

[DirtyDigz 1,812]

.... Cryan recognized Senator Frank Lautenberg as a driving force for sensible gun laws across the nation. "We need to have a full discussion" on sizes of magazines and availability of assault weapons across the board. ...

 

Why do I believe that any "discussion" with Cryan and Lautenberg regarding firearm legislation would go as below, with gun owners represented by the person on the right?:

 

[mike 14]

They must really beleive that a criminal looking to comit a crime is going to follow that law so they dont get any added time to there sentence.Where has all the common sense gone.

[Handyman 5,682]

Cryan needs this; he likely can't count past 5.

[Sonnylee 20]

They should investigate him regarding his behind the scence real estate deals with contractors he favors in exchange for no bid contracts.

[Handyman 5,682]

Cryan needs this; he likely can't count past 5.

 

I recant; he could probably count to 10 on those rare occasions one hand is not wrapped around a female or a bottle of booze.

[Worn_Holster 2]

What is the difference? Any restriction less than 8 demonizes virtually all semi-auto handguns. He is just following NY's new legislation. They call NJ a blue state for a reason; that the policies are dictated by the liberal, gun-hating majority, and all the letters and calls that we pro-2A citizens deliver will have no effect on the outcome. Unless Christie grows a pair and lets some of these proposals die, we are in for a serious 2A beatdown here. The only thing that could toss this crap out is a court case that goes to the Supreme Court that rules against this blatant infringement against the Constitution, which could take years to land on the court's docket.

[plode 0]

He should be pushing for bans on baseball bats. After all, his own son nearly beat a man to death with one.

[Kasper 6]

But it does impede law abiding citizens.

[incinerator950 0]

He should be pushing for bans on baseball bats. After all, his own son nearly beat a man to death with one.

 

Really?

[Chvl67 0]

Really?

Sunday, April 23, 2006

BY JIM O'NEILL

Star-Ledger Staff

The son of a prominent Union County Democrat is awaiting sentencing in Middlesex County on charges of failing to meet the conditions of a probationary term im posed after he admitted assaulting a motorist in Union County with a baseball bat four years ago.

 

John Cryan, the 23-year-old son of Assemblyman Joseph Cryan, the newly appointed chairman of the state Democratic Committee, will not be jailed for defaulting on his sentence for assaulting the motorist, but he could be facing an additional probationary term of three years when he is sentenced June 9, according to his attorney, Joseph Spagnoli of Cranford.

 

He said Cryan got involved in "an unfortunate incident that got out of control."

 

"My client deeply regrets it be cause a criminal conviction in this day and age has an effect on a person being able to keep a good job," Spagnoli said.

 

Spagnoli noted that had the young Cryan faithfully followed the terms of his probation, he would have been much closer by now to completing his obligation.

 

Cryan's father, who was a freshman in the Assembly when the in cident occurred, was angered the report on his son had emerged.

 

"The story is old. My son and my family and the others have put it behind us and I'm sorry to find that The Star-Ledger has chosen to bring it up at this time, years after the fact."

 

Although the assault occurred in Union Township, it subsequently was transferred to Middlesex County, apparently to avoid the ap pearance of a conflict. A spokesman for the Union CountyProsecutor's Office did not respond to phone calls seeking a specific reason for the change of venue.

 

In addition to being a well- known figure in Union County, the elder Cryan serves as an undersheriff to Sheriff Ralph Froehlich, but did not hold the job at the time of the assault.

 

In a deal reached with Middlesex County authorities, the younger Cryan pleaded guilty Jan. 31, 2003, to a count of aggravated as sault, admitting he participated in the attack.

 

Superior Court Judge James Mulvihill, sitting in New Brunswick, placed the defendant on probation for five years, ordered him to undergo anger management counseling, refrain from using alcohol until age 21 and submit to random urine monitoring.

 

In addition, the judge ordered the young Cryan to pay $708.66 to cover the cost of repairs to the victim's damaged car, imposed a $1,000 fine and ordered the defendant to perform 200 hours of community service, according to]court records

 

Cryan returned to court in January, and pleaded guilty to violat ing probation, admitting he had failed to pay the fines, missed some appointments with his probation officer and had fallen behind on the community service, his lawyer said.

 

By the time he pleaded guilty to the probation violation, Cryan had paid the fine and restitution and since has nearly completed the community service, according to Spagnoli.

 

He said he would not permit the young defendant to comment on the case.

 

Court records showed Cryan, a Union Township resident, was driving three friends on the evening of March 6, 2002, when he apparently passed the motorist, Luis Coral, also of Union Township, and cut in front of his vehicle.

 

Coral, who was with his 14-year-old son, was angered and followed Cryan's until it stopped at a Shell station on Morris Avenue in the township about 10:30 p.m., according to the court records

 

Coral got out the car and yelled at the occupants. Cryan, who was 19 at the time, and two of the passengers, David Dean, 18, and Manuel Naval, 19, emerged and got into a confrontation with the motorist. The fourth passenger in Cryan's vehicle, a young woman, was not involved in the dispute, the records showed.

 

A Middlesex County grand jury handed up a six-count indictment against the three men, charging the argument escalated until they punched Coral in the face, hit him in the knee with the baseball bat and trashed his car before fleeing.

 

Nothing in the court records described the extent of Coral's injuries, but the grand jury filed second-degree aggravated assault counts, indicating the injuries were serious enough to warrant a 5- to 10-year prison term upon conviction.

 

Coral, described as a man in his 30s, could not be reached for comment.

 

After police stopped Cryan's vehicle, they found a baseball bat in the trunk, but testing failed to show any evidence to suggest it had been used in the attack. Cryan initially contended it had no role in the assault, according to the records.

 

Before trial, however, all three men pleaded guilty under an agreement to reduce the aggravated as sault to a less serious third-degree offense that enabled them to avoid incarceration.

 

Cryan's lawyer said he could not remember details of the assault.

 

"I don't recall who did the punching or who (handled) the bat, but there was complicity on the part of all three." He said the victim was not seriously injured.

 

Spagnoli added that Cryan never realized he drove across Cor al's path and was surprised when the man approached them at the gas station

 

Cryan "said it was an honest mistake but he (Coral) starts cursing and yelling and, unfortunately, the whole thing escalates," the defense lawyer said.

[incinerator950 0]

Right, so when I write a letter to him, I'll be sure to remind him if we're going to try to ban Assault weapons or Assault Clips to reduce crime, we should also ban Baseball bats outside of sports teams and bring up his son as a prominent example.

 

I won't do that, but I want to turn it commidical.

[scatterbrains 0]

Hmmm guess whos getting a letter stating exactly that...

[tony357 386]

Cryan needs this; he likely can't count past 5.

 

Hope he does not loose a toe between now and then or we may be stuck with 4.

[BCeagle 12]

I was all ready to replace my guns to 7 round Desert Eagle .50 Cals, they need to male up their mind.

[Albanian 121]

Insane, I doubt this will pass but everyone should expect a drop to 10 rounds. I have a strong feeling that will pass. Most people in NJ don't even realize how hard it is to get a gun legally in NJ as it is. Which is why non-gun owners usually support strict measures. They are uninformed. People watch too many movies.

 

Also, the Newtown teachers would have been even bigger heroes if they had been armed and were able to adequately defend themselves and the kids.