mikelets456 78 Posted February 20, 2013 http://www.kniferights.org/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=218&Itemid=1 February 19, 2013: A bill working its way very rapidly through the New Jersey legislature has just been amended without a hearing to include "any dangerous knife" to proposed enhanced "weapons free zones," creating a dangerous trap for the unwary citizen that could result in fines and jail time for possession of common pocket knives or utility knives within those "zones." We need EVERYONE to WRITE TODAY to help stop this insanity! (For details click on Read More >>>> below) New Jersey Assembly bill A1387 would permit municipalities to establish huge swaths of "weapons free zones" around schools, parks and public facilities within which possession of "any dangerous knife" would be prohibited, under penalty of fine and imprisonment. WRITE TODAY to help stop this insanity! (see below) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kotkot 26 Posted February 20, 2013 Crazy lawmakers....get ready for November. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mike48 0 Posted February 20, 2013 better check the school cafeteria..... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RubberBullets 65 Posted February 20, 2013 "dangerous knife"? A wawa was held up this morning by me with a steak knife.. Im guessing anything with a pointy edge will fall under said legislation. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Shawnmoore81 623 Posted February 20, 2013 Carry permit for knives in the future? Better warn the Boy Scouts since they do a lot of stuff in parks Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
voyager9 3,434 Posted February 20, 2013 Assault Spork? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
brocglock23 4 Posted February 20, 2013 they are just staying on track with the route they are going. Not taking weapons from or making penalties more harsh for criminals. Just creating more criminals. If this was twitter #we are f'd Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
voyager9 3,434 Posted February 20, 2013 If its true the it just creates more allies to help beat these back Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
siderman 1,138 Posted February 20, 2013 better check the school cafeteria..... Oh oh-I hope at least THEY get a grandfather clause.... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Anselmo 87 Posted February 20, 2013 I've read the bill 3 times. Very confusing but I think it eliminates the ability to drive around with a long gun. It expands some exemptions for traveling to/fro to include gun exhibitions but the list seems inclusive. It gives exemption to this if you complete a training class. http://www.njleg.state.nj.us/2012/Bills/A1500/1387_R1.PDF Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mcguffin 0 Posted February 20, 2013 Includes a ban on pepper spray. This will turn women into criminals simply for having mace in thier purse and going for a jog or picking the kid up from day care. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
PeteF 1,044 Posted February 20, 2013 Family having a picnic in a park, arrested for cutting a piece of pie. mom an dad doing 90 days. You know common sense. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Anselmo 87 Posted February 20, 2013 Includes a ban on pepper spray. This will turn women into criminals simply for having mace in thier purse and going for a jog or picking the kid up from day care. It allows pepper spray if you're 18 or older. Nothing in N.J.S.2C:39-5 shall be construed to prevent any person who is 18 years of age or older and who has not been convicted of a felony, from possession for the purpose of personal self-defense of one pocket-sized device which contains and releases not more than three-quarters of an ounce of chemical substance not ordinarily capable of lethal use or of inflicting serious bodily injury, but rather, is intended to produce temporary physical discomfort or disability through being vaporized or otherwise dispensed in the air.Any person in possession of any device in violation of this subsection shall be deemed and adjudged to be a disorderly person, and upon conviction thereof, shall be punished by a fine of not less than $100.00. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
H.M. Murdock 0 Posted February 20, 2013 I've read the bill 3 times. Very confusing but I think it eliminates the ability to drive around with a long gun. It expands some exemptions for traveling to/fro to include gun exhibitions but the list seems inclusive. It gives exemption to this if you complete a training class. http://www.njleg.sta...500/1387_R1.PDF No more trunk gun? I need to read this in the morning. Not cool. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Qel Hoth 33 Posted February 20, 2013 It allows pepper spray if you're 18 or older. Nothing in N.J.S.2C:39-5 shall be construed to prevent any person who is 18 years of age or older and who has not been convicted of a felony, from possession for the purpose of personal self-defense of one pocket-sized device which contains and releases not more than three-quarters of an ounce of chemical substance not ordinarily capable of lethal use or of inflicting serious bodily injury, but rather, is intended to produce temporary physical discomfort or disability through being vaporized or otherwise dispensed in the air.Any person in possession of any device in violation of this subsection shall be deemed and adjudged to be a disorderly person, and upon conviction thereof, shall be punished by a fine of not less than $100.00. This bill would create a new section. They would have to amend that exemption or it would not apply to the new sections created by this bill. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Underdog 1,593 Posted February 20, 2013 This is what happens when liberal schumerheads get into public office. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Petes 0 Posted February 20, 2013 Banning knives makes as much sense as banning hats. This makes me sick. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Cixelsid 1 Posted February 20, 2013 Banning knives makes as much sense as banning hats. This makes me sick. Hats! I will never give up my hats! God wants me to wear one. http://youtu.be/djSp1NVsTrI Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DngrZne 0 Posted February 20, 2013 The noncompliance is going to be staggering Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wooly bugger 1 Posted February 20, 2013 No more trunk gun? I need to read this in the morning. Not cool. Was a trunk gun ever legal? I though you are allowed to carry only back and forth between the home and range or gunsmith. At least that's what they old us at the ANJRPC orientation. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wooly bugger 1 Posted February 20, 2013 The noncompliance is going to be staggering Most people will just continue to carry their pocketknives without ever hearing about this bill. And for the most part, it won't be enforced, because the line between a knife as tool and weapon has always been blurry. The scary thing is, if they don't like you, it just adds years onto a jail term. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JrzyGuy30 0 Posted February 20, 2013 So my pocket knife in my briefcase is going to be illegal now!? WTF! Who do I call first to yell at about this? Jeeeezus Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
H.M. Murdock 0 Posted February 20, 2013 Was a trunk gun ever legal? I though you are allowed to carry only back and forth between the home and range or gunsmith. At least that's what they old us at the ANJRPC orientation. I have a FPID in my name so I may have a long gun in my vehicle at any time and LEO can verify my FPID over the radio. But that is a discussion that has run its course many times here Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BarkNBite 15 Posted February 20, 2013 This sickens me.................. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
YankeeFan 49 Posted February 20, 2013 I guess the lunch lady in school will have to use plastic cutlery now... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ruger9 0 Posted February 20, 2013 Crazy lawmakers....get ready for November. The problem with mentality is, the law will already be passed. And RARE is the law that gets un-passed in the future. Rare. "We'll get 'em the next election" just ain't cutting it anymore. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
gunguy1960 2 Posted February 20, 2013 Every knife in nj is considered dangerous, thats why we have no legal blade length like other states use. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
hd2000fxdl 422 Posted February 21, 2013 Holly crap, are you serious, what next, am I going to have to turn in my pen for a Sharpie. Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
hd2000fxdl 422 Posted February 21, 2013 Assault Spork? Only the black ones, white and tan are ok. Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites