Dumb Question: is it me or the sights?

[seamusSU 0]

So I took my Ruger MK I out to the range today and I was very consistently hitting 2-3 inches due left of the center at ~10 m. The groupings were tight so I am trying to figure out if it was my aim or the sights that were causing me to hit left.

 

How would I go about figuring this out?

 

Should I find someone more experienced to put some rounds through it and help judge?

 

I don't want to start trying to sight it in if it's me and not the gun.

 

Any advice is greatly appreciated.

[brocglock23 4]

So I took my Ruger MK I out to the range today and I was very consistently hitting 2-3 inches due left of the center at ~10 m. The groupings were tight so I am trying to figure out if it was my aim or the sights that were causing me to hit left.

 

How would I go about figuring this out?

 

Should I find someone more experienced to put some rounds through it and help judge?

 

I don't want to start trying to sight it in if it's me and not the gun.

 

Any advice is greatly appreciated.

 

I'd let someone try your gun before playing with sights

[Jon 264]

Get someone who knows what they're doing behind the trigger. If their group is in the same spot, you have your answer.

[pasu0115 200]

Have another experienced shooter or two shoot the gun. If all the results are the same, the sights are off. If only you hit left, it is your shooting.

[Tack Tickle 0]

I couldn't have said it better (reference to the chart)... hahaha

[JLF 0]

That's a great chart!

[silverado427 10,731]

I'm having the same problem with my M&P22. I just ordered new sights, It doesn't matter if I cover the target or six a clock hold. I can't hit the center of my target. With my 9mm i can blast the center out of the target...

[Soju 153]

Well silverado, fortunately the M&P22 has an adjustable rear sight, so, you know, you can adjust it.

 

Sometimes the sights are in fact, simply off. If you are hitting at your POA with other firearms, and not with one particular one, there is a good chance the sights are off. Either that, or the trigger is the most awful trigger ever made, or all your other firearms have the most incredible triggers, and the discrepancy there is enough to cause you to now suck.

 

[10X 3,301]

Your skill and the inherent accuracy of the firearm are reflected in how small the groups are (precision). Where the groups are (accuracy) is a function of the sights, and to a small extent the load and the grip ergonomics of the person holding the gun.

 

In other words, if you are shooting small groups, you are doing your part successfully. If the groups aren't centered, it's always the gun's fault, and the sights will need adjusting.

[silverado427 10,731]

Maybe i do. This is from today. :wild: :wild:

[MonmouthShooter 0]

How about using a laser bore sighter to check the sights?

 

Just a thought from a noob....

[DSD1026 48]

i have the same problem (slightly to the left). I am thinking its me.. it'll get there with more practice.. this pic was from a few weeks ago... im going to shoot my fathers MP9 this weekend and want to see if im still to the left and see how he shoots it...

 

a couple outliers but not too bad for only 3rd time shooting

 

[Old Glock guy 1,127]

If you have other handguns, how does the pattern look with them? If they are OK, then it's probably the gun.

 

If that's your only gun and you're a fairly new shooter, speaking from experience, I would say that it's probably you.

[JimmyD 0]

I'm pretty new to guns, so just curious: won't shooting it from a bench rest tell you the answer?

[silverado427 10,731]

Here's my 9mm target

[awynne56 0]

Well now your just bragging good shooting. How far away 7 yards? I suck compared to you

[silverado427 10,731]

Well now your just bragging good shooting. How far away 7 yards? I suck compared to you

25 -30' on the 9mm

[TOMMY R 24]

Use your search on internet type in pistol pie chart sounds stupid I know but it has helped me a some friends. It a pretty simple idea very infomitive it,s a target you can print out shoot it and it tells you what your doing wrong.

[10X 3,301]

Use your search on internet type in pistol pie chart sounds stupid I know but it has helped me a some friends. It a pretty simple idea very infomitive it,s a target you can print out shoot it and it tells you what your doing wrong.

 

The analysis chart can be found here: http://www.bullseyepistol.com/training.htm

 

Remember, this is to analyze stray shots that are significantly outside of the group you are shooting--it's not for explaining why your group isn't centered in the bullseye. That's a sight adjustment issue. The chart also assumes you are shooting one-handed. A two hand grip adds stability, but can also add other ways to screw up...