Sending optics in the mail illegal?!

[Howi 0]

I am almost 100% positive this woman at the ups store just had no idea and thought this RDS would somehow kill her, but regardless it got turned away.

 

My family back home was trying to mail my aim point pro out to me from nj and the woman working the desk turned them away saying it is illegal to ship parts of firearms out of nj with out a gov id. Whether this is true or false I was wondering if there is any legislation that I can have them show her? Thanks!

 

Really just want to know if its true?

[Krdshrk 3,877]

It's an optic.... like shipping a telescope.  She's just talking out of her ass. 

[BlueLineFish 615]

I know a lot of optics can't be shipped overseas because of export regulations. Where are you now?

[DSD1026 48]

wow..  ignorance is rampant...

 

BLF - seriously? 

[wink-_-wink 1]

I know a lot of optics can't be shipped overseas because of export regulations. Where are you now?

^^this (worked at FedEx for a short time and this I remember for sure

[alowerlevel 77]

I know a lot of optics can't be shipped overseas because of export regulations. Where are you now?

 

This ^^^ look up ITAR (International Traffic in Arms Regulations)

 

Edit:  Heres a page on Optic Planets site about it http://www.opticsplanet.com/export.html

[BlueLineFish 615]

wow..  ignorance is rampant...

 

BLF - seriously?

 

Explain smartass

[DSD1026 48]

Explain smartass

actually, my first line was in response to the woman who wouldnt ship it..

 

then i edited it and asked "seriously?"..  lol..   sorry..   forgot to add the "edit" part

[wink-_-wink 1]

Explain smartass

bad boys bad boys.... Whatcha gunna do!

[High Exposure 5,664]

ITAR is no joke.

 

Not only does it cover physical items, like weapon parts, NODs, Optics and armor, but training too.

 

If you train a foreign national/non US citizen on firearms in a professional capacity you are violating ITAR and are subject to federal prosecution.

 

Remember at SHOT a few years back there were all those arrests - that was all ITAR related.

[ryan_j 0]

ITAR is no joke.

 

Not only does it cover physical items, like weapon parts, NODs, Optics and armor, but training too.

 

If you train a foreign national/non US citizen on firearms in a professional capacity you are violating ITAR and are subject to federal prosecution.

 

Remember at SHOT a few years back there were all those arrests - that was all ITAR related.

 

So if a foreign national takes a NRA course that's a crime?

[High Exposure 5,664]

According to my understanding of ITAR, yes.

[colnar 0]

I would think that shipping this domestically would be the same as shipping binoculars.

[PeteF 1,044]

Funny how Arms in ITAR covers everything from instruction manuals to nukes,

But in keep and bear arms it only means light weapons suitable for sport or hunting purposes.

[BlueLineFish 615]

Funny how Arms in ITAR covers everything from instruction manuals to nukes,

But in keep and bear arms it only means light weapons suitable for sport or hunting purposes.

we all know too well laws dont make sense

[Sht 3]

Aimpoint pro says not for export.

[njpilot 671]

When companies say "not for export", don't they mean they can't sell the item outside the US? The definition of "export" is "to ship (commodities) to other countries or places for sale, exchange, etc.

 

The op is asking about his family sending his optic to him. I don't see how export laws would apply to this.

[High Exposure 5,664]

Not for export, means that the object can not leave the US without permit/license for an exemption. ITAR doesn't care if you are sending to yourself or to a foreign national, that it is not permitted to leave the country.

[njpilot 671]

Not for export, means that the object can not leave the US without permit/license for an exemption. ITAR doesn't care if you are sending to yourself or to a foreign national, that it is not permitted to leave the country.

Ok, thanks for the clarification.

 

I guess it's ok if he took it with him when he was deployed as I have heard of troops buying their own optics and taking them when deploying.

[JackDaWack 2,895]

U mean anyone can come to this country, receive training, and then be forced to stay?

 

Lolz. And yes that's sarcasm.