Lalo 13 Posted July 2, 2014 I work in IT and over the past few months we refreshed a lot of our older workstations with new ones. The old machine chassis were donated/recycled but the hard drives have to be destroyed. This year instead of sending them out to be destroyed or taking them to a shop to have someone take a drill press through them, I want to use them as targets. Are there any public ranges in NJ that allow people to shoot "junk"? Obviously would clean up the mess, etc. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Vlad G 345 Posted July 2, 2014 I've done this once, with a shotgun slug. However, since then I've learned a bit more about how materials behave and I would recommend against doing it, unless you are doing it from very far away. Crap can fly back at you. I recommend a heavy hammer and some cold beer in the backyard, it will be more therapeutic. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
notmetoo 41 Posted July 2, 2014 Here's how we didi it in the sandbox: Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
chris327 30 Posted July 2, 2014 Lalo I actually buy them for scrap metal. Pm me if your interested. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
checko 180 Posted July 2, 2014 Here's how we didi it in the sandbox: Got any more of that lying around? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sota 1,191 Posted July 2, 2014 this thread is relevant to my interests. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Lalo 13 Posted July 2, 2014 Yeah I have a few chassis left over too. Usually whatever is not picked up for recycling I end up chucking out the fire escape from the second floor into the dumpster. Printers are fun too, except when you miss the dumsper and it crashes into the parking lot... However, since then I've learned a bit more about how materials behave and I would recommend against doing it, unless you are doing it from very far away. Crap can fly back at you.Yeah I wouldn't shoot anything like this unless it's at least 25 yards or more. Here's how we didi it in the sandbox: That's just awesome! Would love to do that but here in NJ, DOUBTFUL. Lalo I actually buy them for scrap metal. Pm me if your interested.Thanks Chris, I'll keep that in mind. I'd have to drill a hole through them first but that's no fun. I'd much more prefer to line them up at 100yds and blow a hole through them with the AR! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gunnz 49 Posted July 2, 2014 One of my favorite movies! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
HBecwithFn7 296 Posted July 2, 2014 I work in IT and over the past few months we refreshed a lot of our older workstations with new ones. The old machine chassis were donated/recycled but the hard drives have to be destroyed. This year instead of sending them out to be destroyed or taking them to a shop to have someone take a drill press through them, I want to use them as targets. Are there any public ranges in NJ that allow people to shoot "junk"? Obviously would clean up the mess, etc. I "DOD Wipe" mine and re-use them.. Are they old IDE's or SATAs? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Lalo 13 Posted July 2, 2014 I "DOD Wipe" mine and re-use them.. Are they old IDE's or SATAs? The drives are actually already wiped, but in addition to that, they have to be destroyed. They're mostly IDE's, maybe some SATA's. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
chris327 30 Posted July 2, 2014 Well even after you shoot holes through them ill still buy them. So keep in mind. Cases too and all other components as well. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
HBecwithFn7 296 Posted July 2, 2014 The drives are actually already wiped, but in addition to that, they have to be destroyed. They're mostly IDE's, maybe some SATA's. I guess that's company policy. I don't believe in wasting storage. I remember when it was very expensive, although there isn't much use for IDEs these days... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The_Matrix 105 Posted July 3, 2014 Even if you put bullets into them, someone who is very skilled and determined can still retrieve data from damaged hard drives. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Vlad G 345 Posted July 3, 2014 Even if you put bullets into them, someone who is very skilled and determined can still retrieve data from damaged hard drives. Well, I'll take a picture next time I run into it of the drive that took a 12ga slug. I'm pretty sure reading that platter would be beyond challenging. Actually .. if the NSA can read that platter, that would have been handy a few years ago, that bastard crashed and took down an oracle DB that raz-0 and I had to spend 2 days restoring from backups. Which explains the shotgun therapy. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
AdamM 42 Posted July 3, 2014 Yeah and where is the NSA when it comes to recovering Lois Lerners HD for emails while they are at it. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Lalo 13 Posted July 3, 2014 Even if you put bullets into them, someone who is very skilled and determined can still retrieve data from damaged hard drives. Recovering data from shattered hard drive platters? That's some Jack Bower/24 activity right there. Person doing that is probably working for the gov'ment locked in an underground bunker somewhere. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
seamusSU 0 Posted July 3, 2014 Even if you put bullets into them, someone who is very skilled and determined can still retrieve data from damaged hard drives.There's a big difference between recovering data and recovering usable data Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sota 1,191 Posted July 3, 2014 here's the trick... shoot them edge-wise. punching a hole perpendicular to the platter doesn't do much. now parking a .223 or .308 into the side of the drive just below the axis of the spindle, that'll seriously f**k that drive's day up. the above is not from empirical evidence. no seriously, I'd never do that. really, I wouldn't. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sota 1,191 Posted July 3, 2014 now what I'd like to try as an experiment is to peg it while it's powered up. That would be fun. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Purple Patrick 638 Posted July 3, 2014 Clinton wma. I've shot old computers there a few times. A slug in the right place and bam no more hard drive. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Lalo 13 Posted July 3, 2014 Knob Creek Where is this exactly? My google-fu couldnt find anything with that name in NJ. Clinton wma. I've shot old computers there a few times. A slug in the right place and bam no more hard drive. That's an option, but slugs are expensive. Would prefer to peg them with a .223 round or 40 cal pistol. 22's will just bounce off at a distance. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Purple Patrick 638 Posted July 3, 2014 Where is this exactly? My google-fu couldnt find anything with that name in NJ. That's an option, but slugs are expensive. Would prefer to peg them with a .223 round or 40 cal pistol. 22's will just bounce off at a distance. I think he's referring to the machine gun shoot in va haha. A 22 should go thru and thru at 25yds. I was surprised how well an old iPod touch trapped 22s, they would enter the screen and then get stuck in the metal back cover Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DeerSlayer 241 Posted July 3, 2014 Office Space was the first thought I had, when reading the op's initial post too lol... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mikeythumbs 1 Posted July 3, 2014 Knob creek is in Kentucky they have the bi-annual machine gun shoots Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Vlad G 345 Posted July 3, 2014 Ok, so here is what the drive I shot with a shotgun slug looks like. Seeing how the plater is full or ripples (both on the main component, and much smaller ones on the surface) I rather doubt it is recoverable. Also I wonder what the static discharge from the impact did. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bhunted 887 Posted July 3, 2014 There is no more magnetic media. It shattered. No recovery. Sent from my iPad 2 using T2 Pro Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Lalo 13 Posted July 3, 2014 Yeah, no doubt destroying a drive like that will definitely render it useless and data will be unrecoverable. No way I'm driving to Kentuky to shoot these drives. Clinto WMA rifle range is an option but limited to 12g slugs or .22's. Maybe I need to look further west out in PA. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Purple Patrick 638 Posted July 3, 2014 Efga if no one is there Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites