NJ legal AOW on a Handgun Permit

[High Exposure 5,670]

I was debating putting this in the Handgun or the Shotgun forum. Mods, if you think it will get better traffic there, please move it.

 

So, my buddy just picked one of these up after a long back and forth conversation with NJSP. They said he was good to go as long as it was on a Pistol Permit:

 

 

http://www.blackacestactical.com

 

Thought some of you guys may be interested.

 

I have no clue as to the quality, reliability, or function of this platform. I just thought it was cool that it was good to go in NJ. A rare exception to the "If you have to ask in Jersey" clause.

[The_Matrix 105]

Looks painful to shoot.  My shoulder hurts just looking at it.

[High Exposure 5,670]

Yeah, I don't really see the utility, besides as a dedicated breaching gun, but that magazine really kills it for that purpose.

 

Personally, I could find better things to spend $1300 on - but to each their own.

[High Exposure 5,670]

Actually, I could see alowslowmiata getting one in purple and rocking the shit out of it.

[302w 83]

Looks painful to shoot. My shoulder hurts just looking at it.

That's actually an arm brace.

[ChrisJM981 924]

I guess that means I can put a receiver on a pistol permit...

[fatty 241]

That thing meets the weight requirement as a pistol?

[Purple Patrick 638]

Actually, I could see alowslowmiata getting one in purple and rocking the shit out of it.

I've posted about this exact gun before haha. It would sure as hell be a great close corridors room clearer

 

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[PK90 3,573]

That thing meets the weight requirement as a pistol?

 

Pump-Action, so no SAW application.

 

I would consider that front grip as a vertical one. A no-no unless a Federal AOW. 

[High Exposure 5,670]

Pump-Action, so no SAW application.

 

I would consider that front grip as a vertical one. A no-no unless a Federal AOW.

I believe you can use a Magpul AFG up there without running afoul of the vert-grip restrictions

[JackDaWack 2,895]

Pump-Action, so no SAW application.

 

I would consider that front grip as a vertical one. A no-no unless a Federal AOW. 

Technically its the charging handle.....

[JackDaWack 2,895]

That's actually an arm brace.

Im not sure if he picked up on that but I still think this would be worse on your shoulder.

[PK90 3,573]

Technically its the charging handle.....

 

Call it whatever, it is still a vertical grip.

https://www.atf.gov/firearms/docs/open-letter/all-ffls-may2006-open-letter-adding-vertical-fore-grip-handgun/download

 

Im not sure if he picked up on that but I still think this would be worse on your shoulder.

 

Putting it against one's shoulder would be violation of Federal Law according to ATF.

https://www.atf.gov/file/11816/download

[BlueLineFish 615]

Did he yet anything in writing from them. I have two of those in the regular shotgun config. Would like a baby one

[JackDaWack 2,895]

Call it whatever, it is still a vertical grip.

https://www.atf.gov/firearms/docs/open-letter/all-ffls-may2006-open-letter-adding-vertical-fore-grip-handgun/download

 

 

Putting it against one's shoulder would be violation of Federal Law according to ATF.

https://www.atf.gov/file/11816/download

Oh nooo nooo, i was referring to shooting this thing from the hip.. I cant imagine a sig brace doing your arm and shoulder any favors

 

 

I still dont see it meeting the requirement of "extending below the line of the bore", since they put in "the line" it indicates that anything deviating from the line below the bore is OK. I don't think that's stretching it, i think they were a little too specific in their statements.

[PK90 3,573]

The Sig Brace is softer than a buttock.

 

 

 

I mean buttstock.

 

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[Purple Patrick 638]

So who is your buddy, why isn't he on here and where is he located so I can shoot this thing?

 

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