45Doll 5,877 Posted March 25, 2021 I don't think this has been posted here anywhere, but the Suez Canal is shut and no one is quite sure when it will open again. This article delves into the ramifications of shutting down the largest shipping lane in the world, and the possible economic effects. What say you, investors? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Displaced Texan 11,751 Posted March 25, 2021 Yeah I read that yesterday. It’s going to be a HUGE problem. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CMJeepster 2,778 Posted March 25, 2021 Trump's fault. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Displaced Texan 11,751 Posted March 25, 2021 I have the feeling there will be an ASSLOAD of salvage with this incident. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
45Doll 5,877 Posted March 25, 2021 If there's any ammo on that ship we can arrange some volunteers to take it off at no charge. 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
siderman 1,138 Posted March 25, 2021 What do The Ever Given and the POTUS have in common? Hint- took em both out recently...supposedly.... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sniper 6,372 Posted March 25, 2021 4 hours ago, 45Doll said: What say you, investors? Buy oil stocks... Think gas prices are high now?? Just wait... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
45Doll 5,877 Posted March 26, 2021 (edited) Holy crap! I just heard that the Ever Given blocking the Suez pipe may itself have a huge load of toilet paper, and also be causing a blockage of other ships holding same! Stand by for Toilet Paper Shortage II ! And watch out for a discharge if/when it gets cut loose! Here you go. More detail from Zero Hedge. It's not necessarily the finished product; it's the components. Edited March 27, 2021 by 45Doll Link added. 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Redeye65 162 Posted March 27, 2021 The Egyptians have been able to turn a few ships around in the canal, last count there are 9 ships that can not be turned around, there were 45 in the slot to enter the canal, some have already started the trip around Africa, some are holding hoping it’s cleared soon. It cost the steamship line 1 million a day in fuel to sail around Africa, not to mention pirates and some of the worst seas to sail through. Cargo containers were already in short supply, this is only going to compound the problem 10 fold. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
45Doll 5,877 Posted March 27, 2021 There's a bunch of news videos on YT that describe the problems up to now and in the future. Apparently there's a significant risk of the hull cracking, either from the strain of the tugs pushing and pulling on it, and from the flexing that's occurring each and every time the tide shifts between high and low. These hulls aren't designed to take strain in that manner. They've already found water in several areas of the ship that should be dry and they suspect there are already micro-fissures in the steel. 'Just unload the cargo' isn't an easy way out either, because cranes large enough to do that job in the current setting are rare. One other thing I learned is that the increase from 10K container ships to 20K has happened in just the last 10 years. And crew and technology requirements have not been adjusted accordingly. Oil and gas prices in Europe have already spiked and will go higher. Imagine if this ship breaks in half in the canal! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
voyager9 3,434 Posted March 27, 2021 And this was by accident. Imagine if some jihadi decides to Cole one of those suckers mid-canal. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rifleman 90 Posted March 27, 2021 I bring stuff in from Taiwan, most of my containers come thru the Panama Canal. Will check all my ships Monday. The production planning dweebs ask if our deliveries were guaranteed and my reply was HAHAHAHA NO. Who could plan for a ship getting stuck? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Displaced Texan 11,751 Posted March 27, 2021 31 minutes ago, rifleman said: I bring stuff in from Taiwan, most of my containers come thru the Panama Canal. Will check all my ships Monday. The production planning dweebs ask if our deliveries were guaranteed and my reply was HAHAHAHA NO. Who could plan for a ship getting stuck? Wow, if PanCan got shut down in a similar manner, that would really mess up the works. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
High Exposure 5,664 Posted March 27, 2021 5 minutes ago, Displaced Texan said: Wow, if PanCan got shut down in a similar manner, that would really mess up the works. Don’t give anyone any great ideas... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
45Doll 5,877 Posted March 28, 2021 That was the other thing discussed. Great opportunity to sink the ship in the canal and screw it up for months. Or years. It's not clear if they have any substantial security around it. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bomber 1,092 Posted March 28, 2021 "Cargo ship drew giant penis in Red Sea before wedging itself in Suez Canal" https://www.disclose.tv/t/cargo-ship-drew-giant-penis-in-red-sea-before-wedging-itself-in-suez-canal/27201 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Displaced Texan 11,751 Posted March 28, 2021 7 minutes ago, Bomber said: "Cargo ship drew giant penis in Red Sea before wedging itself in Suez Canal" https://www.disclose.tv/t/cargo-ship-drew-giant-penis-in-red-sea-before-wedging-itself-in-suez-canal/27201 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
45Doll 5,877 Posted March 28, 2021 49 minutes ago, Bomber said: "Cargo ship drew giant penis in Red Sea before wedging itself in Suez Canal" https://www.disclose.tv/t/cargo-ship-drew-giant-penis-in-red-sea-before-wedging-itself-in-suez-canal/27201 That reminds me of a Jewish honeymoon joke I heard over 20 years ago. But I'm too tired to type it out now. Maybe tomorrow. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Displaced Texan 11,751 Posted March 28, 2021 This will also restrict military warship access... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Krdshrk 3,877 Posted March 28, 2021 2 hours ago, Displaced Texan said: Wow, if PanCan got shut down in a similar manner, that would really mess up the works. I don't think the Panama Canal has the same issues - being surrounded by sand..... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sniper 6,372 Posted March 28, 2021 First, it looks like in this photo that the captain failed parallel parking when he got his license. And second, it's costing $400 MILLION for every hour this ship stays stuck. A few million here and few there, and soon you're talking real money!! The shipping crisis, now in its fifth day, has added to anxieties over the global supply chain which had already been impacted by the coronavirus pandemic. Each day of blockage disrupts more than $9 billion worth of goods, according to Lloyd’s List, which translates to about $400 million per hour. Other media reports suggest at least two attempts will be made on Saturday to free the ship using the expected high tide. Reuters reported, citing sources, that work would begin at 2:30 p.m. local time. https://www.cnbc.com/2021/03/27/suez-canal-ever-given-owners-in-new-attempt-to-free-ship.html Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kevin125 4,772 Posted March 28, 2021 Unskilled ..is not a word I’d use to describe whoever is operating that escavator. But they might want to get a few more of those... How the hell did it run into the side in a straight canal? They need a bigger canal. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sniper 6,372 Posted March 28, 2021 11 hours ago, Kevin125 said: Unskilled ..is not a word I’d use to describe whoever is operating that escavator. I think the meme was relating to manual labor.. 11 hours ago, Kevin125 said: How the hell did it run into the side in a straight canal? It was the Russians (we haven't blamed them for anything in a while ) Actually, some of the tin foil crowd blamed it on China, they hacked into the controls and ran it into the bank... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
voyager9 3,434 Posted March 28, 2021 13 hours ago, Krdshrk said: I don't think the Panama Canal has the same issues - being surrounded by sand..... If I remember right the PC is largely connected lakes with a set of lochs at various points. I don’t think it’s the long/straight canal that suez is. 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Displaced Texan 11,751 Posted March 28, 2021 23 minutes ago, voyager9 said: If I remember right the PC is largely connected lakes with a set of lochs at various points. I don’t think it’s the long/straight canal that suez is. You are correct. I think there are about 5 sets of locks along the way. All it would take is to block access of one key lock, and commerce would be screwed. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
voyager9 3,434 Posted March 28, 2021 13 minutes ago, Displaced Texan said: All it would take is to block access of one key lock, and commerce would be screwed. That’s true. But the chances of an “accidental” event are lower since the ships are under very strict control through the lochs. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Displaced Texan 11,751 Posted March 28, 2021 12 minutes ago, voyager9 said: That’s true. But the chances of an “accidental” event are lower since the ships are under very strict control through the lochs. I’ve never transited the ditch. I imagine the security there is pretty tight. I imagine it could be done though. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
voyager9 3,434 Posted March 28, 2021 46 minutes ago, Displaced Texan said: I’ve never transited the ditch. I imagine the security there is pretty tight. I imagine it could be done though. I was awarded my Order of the Ditch as a civilian. That and Shellback on the same trip. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bomber 1,092 Posted March 28, 2021 14 hours ago, Sniper said: The shipping crisis, now in its fifth day, has added to anxieties over the global supply chain which had already been impacted by the coronavirus pandemic. Each day of blockage disrupts more than $9 billion worth of goods, according to Lloyd’s List, which translates to about $400 million per hour. Another crisis how convenient. Somebody tell me this wasn't done on purpose, my BS radar says otherwise. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites