NJ LAWMAKERS ANNOUNCE PLANS TO DESTROY RIGHT TO CARRY

[DAHL 59]

34 minutes ago, Annie said:

Okay thanks. So if I get a cc permit I can go anywhere that doesn't specifically say (either verbally or on a sign) I can't go there with a firearm? 

Basically gov't buildings and state owned property are off limits. You also cannot carry to a place that serves alcoholic beverages. You can carry in your car, to the grocery store, in restaurants that do not served alcohol, fast food places, department stores, on the street and on private property.  You just cannot enter residences without permission.

[Walkinguf61 40]

37 minutes ago, DAHL said:

Basically gov't buildings and state owned property are off limits. You also cannot carry to a place that serves alcoholic beverages. You can carry in your car, to the grocery store, in restaurants that do not served alcohol, fast food places, department stores, on the street and on private property.  You just cannot enter residences without permission.

I thought the TRO was against the need for affirmative permission to enter private property. 

[GrumpyOldRetiree 38]

19 hours ago, 1LtCAP said:

while my travel circle is small, i have yet to go into a store that has signage saying i can't carry. nor have i had any friends neighbors or relatives ask me to disarm before entering their property......

In my travels, I've only encountered 1 store (a T-Mobile company store) that had a sign prohibited firearms. Trader Joe's does have a sign prohibiting ILLEGAL firearms.

Slightly off-topic: Did anyone notice that Home Depot stores now have armed security/loss prevention guards near the registers?

[g17owner 137]

9 minutes ago, GrumpyOldRetiree said:

In my travels, I've only encountered 1 store (a T-Mobile company store) that had a sign prohibited firearms. Trader Joe's does have a sign prohibiting ILLEGAL firearms.

Slightly off-topic: Did anyone notice that Home Depot stores now have armed security/loss prevention guards near the registers?

Which location(s)? Ive never seen this in Dover or Ledgewood

[1LtCAP 4,264]

i haven't noticed that at lawnside

[GrumpyOldRetiree 38]

2 hours ago, g17owner said:

Which location(s)? Ive never seen this in Dover or Ledgewood

I saw it in Bridgewater and my neighbor told me he saw it in South Plainfield.

[xXxplosive 824]

7 minutes ago, GrumpyOldRetiree said:

I saw it in Bridgewater and my neighbor told me he saw it in South Plainfield.

which store in Bridgewater......

[GrumpyOldRetiree 38]

16 minutes ago, xXxplosive said:

which store in Bridgewater......

Bordering Bound Brook. I didn't know there was more then one HD in Bridgewater.

[xXxplosive 824]

that one is at the Prominade Mall next to Target....the other one is at Milltown on Rt. 202 Bridgewater.

[Fawkesguy 57]

Looks like online applications/renewals for carry permits has gone live:

https://www.njportal.com/NJSP/ConcealedCarry/

[Tunaman 549]

No references for renewal?  No prints needed for renewal?  The way it should be.

[g17owner 137]

10 minutes ago, Tunaman said:

No references for renewal?  No prints needed for renewal?  The way it should be.

Almost. There shouldn't be a "renewal" needed. But all in all, good for NJ.

[TuscanRaider 8]

1 hour ago, Tunaman said:

No references for renewal?  No prints needed for renewal?  The way it should be.

References are needed for renewal….prints no. 

[JohnnyB 4,325]

No references were contacted for my permit and a friend I was reference for said none of his were contacted either!  It's all Bullshit!

[g17owner 137]

13 minutes ago, JohnnyB said:

No references were contacted for my permit and a friend I was reference for said none of his were contacted either!  It's all Bullshit!

Before 12/22/2022 it was at the discretion of the PD as to whether or not they want to contact the references. I think the new law states they must be contacted in some manner.

[JohnnyB 4,325]

9 minutes ago, g17owner said:

Before 12/22/2022 it was at the discretion of the PD as to whether or not they want to contact the references. I think the new law states they must be contacted in some manner.

I did not apply until June of 2023, nor did my friend!  Before 12/22/2022 it was at the discretion of the courts, not the local CPD.

No references were contacted!  The state just wants to intimidate you to not apply in the first place! Some CPDs are pro 2A, some are not!

[g17owner 137]

1 minute ago, JohnnyB said:

I did not apply until June of 2023, nor did my friend!  Before 12/22/2022 it was at the discretion of the courts, not the local CPD.

No references were contacted!  The state just wants to intimidate you to not apply in the first place! Some CPDs are pro 2A, some are not!

No doubt about the fact that they want to stop from applying or carrying.

[GrumpyOldRetiree 38]

10 hours ago, TuscanRaider said:

References are needed for renewal….prints no. 

I don't see references mentioned in the renewal portion of the "What will I need instructions"

See attached for screen print

[1LtCAP 4,264]

10 hours ago, JohnnyB said:

No references were contacted for my permit and a friend I was reference for said none of his were contacted either!  It's all Bullshit!

my references were all contacted. they all called me when they were.

[pjd832 146]

Looking through that link… there’s no tab for “renewal”  just “start initial application” so seems like it’ll be the same as original process you guys did?  
 

also looking through it seems like the qualification  is different that what my friend did with a state trooper instructor… unless I’m reading wrong… it’s out to 25 yards drawing and shooting from a knee, shooting from cover,  shoot from a “point shoulder position” 

 

[GrumpyOldRetiree 38]

6 minutes ago, 1LtCAP said:

my references were all contacted. they all called me when they were.

mine too.

[JohnnyB 4,325]

24 minutes ago, GrumpyOldRetiree said:

mine too.

I suppose it's up to your local PD as to how thoroughly they investigate your background.

[Tunaman 549]

1 hour ago, GrumpyOldRetiree said:

I don't see references mentioned in the renewal portion of the "What will I need instructions"

See attached for screen print

This is what i saw also.  Can they be THAT incompetent?

[Fawkesguy 57]

3 minutes ago, Tunaman said:

This is what i saw also.  Can they be THAT incompetent?

Hopefully.

 

[pjd832 146]

12 minutes ago, Tunaman said:

This is what i saw also.  Can they be THAT incompetent?

But there’s no separate button for renewal application…. While I see the same “what will I need” … the only option to start an application is “initial” which will most likely walk you through all the “initial” requirements? 

[CMJeepster 2,778]

22 minutes ago, Tunaman said:

Can they be THAT incompetent?

Go see my earlier comments on the training & qualifications guidelines.  I point out almost all of the typos in the 19 page document.  Pathetic.

[GrumpyOldRetiree 38]

1 hour ago, Tunaman said:

This is what i saw also.  Can they be THAT incompetent?

Ha, ha, ha...I assume that's a rhetorical question!

[45Doll 5,877]

Well that didn't take long. Email alert just came out.

ANJRPC Suing To Overturn Carry Training Requirements - Association of New Jersey Rifle and Pistol Clubs

[DirtyDigz 1,812]

The motion to re-open the case in Bumb's court:

https://storage.courtlistener.com/recap/gov.uscourts.njd.506033/gov.uscourts.njd.506033.131.1.pdf

[DirtyDigz 1,812]

Soooo....place yer bets.

Will Bumb re-open the case and add the new quals to the enjoined stuff?

If that happens, will NJ go running to 3rd Cir again to revise the emergency stay?