Biden to Ban Private Gun Sales

[Jon K 32]

Would leave a link but not sure if allowed, but its on Epoch Times, whistleblowers, blowing.....

[JohnnyB 4,325]

47 minutes ago, Jon K said:

Would leave a link but not sure if allowed, but its on Epoch Times, whistleblowers, blowing.....

I could not find it on Epoch but here is a link to another site. https://www.ntd.com/biden-administration-preparing-to-ban-private-gun-sales-whistleblowers_970068.html

[Grima Squeakersen 482]

2 hours ago, Jon K said:

Would leave a link but not sure if allowed, but its on Epoch Times, whistleblowers, blowing.....

Another link: ATF preparing to regulate private gun sales with background check, whistleblower group alleges - Just The News

and here is a link to the Empower Oversight FOIA request for any official records pertaining to this ban:

Draft Ruling Banning Private Sale of Firearms

[CMJeepster 2,778]

Moot point here in Jersey.

[njJoniGuy 2,131]

3 hours ago, CMJeepster said:

Moot point here in Jersey.

Just an example of the Florio Effect.  

It's when a screwed-up Legislature, Executive and Judicial systems set a really REALLY bad example the whole nation follows.

[Grima Squeakersen 482]

8 hours ago, CMJeepster said:

Moot point here in Jersey.

Private gun sales are banned here, even with the intercession of an FFL? I have sold a couple, fairly recently, but I used an on-line firearms marketplace that is also an FFL, because they made what I thought was a reasonable offer, and I figured it would save me some red tape.

[b47356 21]

20 minutes ago, Grima Squeakersen said:

Private gun sales are banned here, even with the intercession of an FFL? I have sold a couple, fairly recently, but I used an on-line firearms marketplace that is also an FFL, because they made what I thought was a reasonable offer, and I figured it would save me some red tape.

How can you call it a "private sale" when it has to go through an FFL?

[father-of-three 243]

2 hours ago, Grima Squeakersen said:

Private gun sales are banned here, even with the intercession of an FFL? I have sold a couple, fairly recently, but I used an on-line firearms marketplace that is also an FFL, because they made what I thought was a reasonable offer, and I figured it would save me some red tape.

My long guns were private sale purchases in Pennsylvania.  No immediate background check required, no FFL required.  Only the one used to get my license to carry firearms.  The experience is truly is a banquet of freedom not tasted in this state.

[Mr.Stu 1,922]

11 hours ago, father-of-three said:

My long guns were private sale purchases in Pennsylvania.  No immediate background check required, no FFL required.  Only the one used to get my license to carry firearms.  The experience is truly is a banquet of freedom not tasted in this state.

Unless you were a resident of PA at the time, that would have been an illegal transfer under Federal law. All inter-state transfers have to go through an FFL. For long guns that can be an FFL in either State. For handguns it must be an FFL in the receiving person's home State.

[njJoniGuy 2,131]

13 hours ago, father-of-three said:

My long guns were private sale purchases in Pennsylvania.  No immediate background check required, no FFL required.  Only the one used to get my license to carry firearms.  The experience is truly is a banquet of freedom not tasted in this state.

Your FFL-free transfer (as a resident of PA selling a long arm to another PA resident) will soon be a thing of the past, as your Governor Josh Shapiro hates guns in the hands of the unanointed. Though the events of October 7 may have changed his personal beliefs since that date.

[leahcim 680]

1 hour ago, njJoniGuy said:

Your FFL-free transfer (as a resident of PA selling a long arm to another PA resident) will soon be a thing of the past, as your Governor Josh Shapiro hates guns in the hands of the unanointed. Though the events of October 7 may have changed his personal beliefs since that date.

Or already is a thing of the past for this guy:

https://lancasteronline.com/news/local/lawyers-for-amish-farmer-charged-with-selling-guns-without-a-license-claim-law-vague-1st/article_9a57df2e-bde9-11ed-8d22-8f0ba0f857de.html

 

 

[leahcim 680]

Or this guy, just trying to sell meat and milk products:

https://lancasteronline.com/news/local/lancaster-county-farmer-amos-miller-feds-reach-agreement-concerning-food-safety-fines/article_f66f67d6-7fe2-11ed-8964-1b10c09e960b.html

 

[father-of-three 243]

3 hours ago, Mr.Stu said:

Unless you were a resident of PA at the time, that would have been an illegal transfer under Federal law. All inter-state transfers have to go through an FFL. For long guns that can be an FFL in either State. For handguns it must be an FFL in the receiving person's home State.

I was, and will soon be again!

[father-of-three 243]

2 hours ago, njJoniGuy said:

Your FFL-free transfer (as a resident of PA selling a long arm to another PA resident) will soon be a thing of the past, as your Governor Josh Shapiro hates guns in the hands of the unanointed. Though the events of October 7 may have changed his personal beliefs since that date.

We'll see.  The Pennsylvania does have a hard time electing Republican governors.  Fortunately, the Rs still have the Senate and the Ds only have a 1 seat House majority.

[father-of-three 243]

1 hour ago, leahcim said:

Or already is a thing of the past for this guy:

https://lancasteronline.com/news/local/lawyers-for-amish-farmer-charged-with-selling-guns-without-a-license-claim-law-vague-1st/article_9a57df2e-bde9-11ed-8d22-8f0ba0f857de.html

 

 

Here's the latest I could find.  There are some gray areas, to put it lightly, including how "profit" is defined.  This case is not your average private long gun sale though.  And Josh Prince is a really good 2a lawyer.

https://www.thelancasterpatriot.com/reuben-king-awaits-sentencing-after-being-convicted-of-selling-long-guns/

[njJoniGuy 2,131]

1 hour ago, father-of-three said:

Here's the latest I could find.  There are some gray areas, to put it lightly, including how "profit" is defined.  This case is not your average private long gun sale though.  And Josh Prince is a really good 2a lawyer.

https://www.thelancasterpatriot.com/reuben-king-awaits-sentencing-after-being-convicted-of-selling-long-guns/

https://www.thelancasterpatriot.com/reuben-king-sentenced-with-probation-fine/

Though he had to forfeit all the guns that were seized, and his Federal conviction stands, Reuben King avoids any prison time.

[45Doll 5,877]

625 guns is quite a personal collection.

[CMJeepster 2,778]

18 minutes ago, 45Doll said:

625 guns is quite a personal collection.

Pizza Bob laughs at his "collection."

[JohnnyB 4,325]

54 minutes ago, 45Doll said:

625 guns is quite a personal collection.

He must be new to the hobby! He only had 10,500 rounds of ammo,  16 rounds per gun! Proves that he's new to the game!

[Grima Squeakersen 482]

On 2/1/2024 at 7:13 PM, b47356 said:

How can you call it a "private sale" when it has to go through an FFL?

You are correct. Guess I've been in this damned state for too long, I must be getting brainwashed.

[Displaced Texan 11,750]

On 2/2/2024 at 3:56 PM, JohnnyB said:

He must be new to the hobby! He only had 10,500 rounds of ammo,  16 rounds per gun! Proves that he's new to the game!

 

[45Doll 5,877]

The new ATF rule will go a long way to helping Brandon out.

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