Ray Ray 3,566 Posted August 29, 2010 it is nice, Ray. I got to shoot it. but damn it's LOUD!!! Probably because the round travels at ~1600 FPS 7.62x25? Yeah, I've come around to these handguns. Not for HD but they serve a purpose. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Pew Pew Plates 358 Posted August 29, 2010 it is nice, Ray. I got to shoot it. but damn it's LOUD!!! Probably because the round travels at ~1600 FPS 7.62x25? Yeah, I've come around to these handguns. Not for HD but they serve a purpose. Yeah, for defense, too much penetration even with JHPs. But its a cheap gun ($199) and cheap ammo at less than 10 cents a pop. The purpose, which it serves very well, is against harder targets like political dissidents with phone books under there felt coats . That was an actual reason for the development of this round. .44 russian and some of the other rounds they used were good at soft targets but even a heavy felt coat could stop the rounds. Plus a fast flat round requires little lead (easy for idiots to shoot at runners). Added bonus: If you love 1911s, thats what this pretty much is, just improved upon. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ray Ray 3,566 Posted August 29, 2010 Added bonus: If you love 1911s, thats what this pretty much is, just improved upon. Come on Glenn, I think you've drank the commie koolaid! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Pew Pew Plates 358 Posted August 29, 2010 Yup :shhh: Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
fliks 20 Posted August 30, 2010 that's why he hangs out with Soviet expatriates all the time Oh, and I won't come any close to winning, but will "throw my hat in the ring" ~ Beretta PX 4Storm 9mm ~ Mossberg 500 w/ 3 Barrels (18.5", 28" vent rib & rifled) Brownie Point: Knoxx SpecOps stock for the Mossberg (it's sweet) pictures coming soon Maybe I'll gather enough shekels by the end of the year for an AK. After seeing Glenn's & Chris' (the one he's trying to sell, it's NICE) I got that itch too, Ray. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Shane45 807 Posted August 31, 2010 Well.... the LMT MWS is home safe and sound. Topped with an Elcan Specter DR. Lil heavy but Ill lug the few extra pounds for the capability bonus. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ray Ray 3,566 Posted August 31, 2010 Well.... the LMT MWS is home safe and sound. Topped with an Elcan Specter DR. Lil heavy but Ill lug the few extra pounds for the capability bonus. Pics? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bbk 188 Posted August 31, 2010 Well.... the LMT MWS is home safe and sound. Topped with an Elcan Specter DR. Lil heavy but Ill lug the few extra pounds for the capability bonus. Pics? +1 :pray: . Ha, please! I need to take the time to realize I'll never have nice toys in comparison Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Tactical Monkey 51 Posted August 31, 2010 Well.... the LMT MWS is home safe and sound. Topped with an Elcan Specter DR. Lil heavy but Ill lug the few extra pounds for the capability bonus. Pics? +1 :pray: . Ha, please! I need to take the time to realize I'll never have nice toys in comparison Edge of my seat... :drool: :drool: Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Shane45 807 Posted August 31, 2010 Cut me some slack on the pics, I did it kinda hasty Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Tactical Monkey 51 Posted September 1, 2010 I can't decide if I'm more jealous of the rifle or the optic..... Nope, clearly it's both. :oops: Sweet setup Shane. Congrats! :clap: Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Shane45 807 Posted September 1, 2010 Thanks brother. The optic from what I can tell fooling around the house ROCKS! Its field of view is freekin huge, as in I can see my own hand on the rifle through the optic! And the red dot is truly daylight visible which was the big issue with many of the other options I looked at. But the price.... :cry: Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bbk 188 Posted September 1, 2010 Shane, Shane, Shane... I don't know what to say :shock: , that's simply too nice, ha Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Shane45 807 Posted September 1, 2010 Yeah its got bells, its got whistles...what it dont have is any mags :oops: :doh: waiting waiting waiting on the BBT!!! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Caine 147 Posted September 1, 2010 I hate you Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ray Ray 3,566 Posted September 1, 2010 BUIS? or strickly the red dot? Nice dude! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Shane45 807 Posted September 1, 2010 Look closely, buis is on the optic. With that being said, since its an etched ret, even if the battery was dead, you still have the reticle. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JimmyAGR 54 Posted September 2, 2010 Wow Shane she is pretty. You had me very interested in the Eclan, but then I looked at the price . Would love to look through that glass sometime. Seems to be the best of all worlds. Enjoy it. Maybe i'll see you at CJR&P one day with all the people there drooling Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Cylinder Head 22 Posted September 2, 2010 Look closely, buis is on the optic. With that being said, since its an etched ret, even if the battery was dead, you still have the reticle. I'm between the Spectre and the S&B Short Dot for my next optic. I know both have been proven out in the 'Ghan, but I like the idea of a second parallax on the S&B so you can run a CQB zero and a long range zero. What's the eye relief on the Elcan? Oh, and here's my new toy for the end of summer: KAC SR-15 E3 with Magpul goodies from MidwestPX Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Shane45 807 Posted September 2, 2010 Here is one more contender for you. I just couldnt muster the extra coin but I likely would have chosen it over the specter if I did. Its the Swarovski ZX6i Brt. The eye relief on the Specter is good. The thing that takes you back a bit is the size of the glass. Its pretty big in diameter. Short Dots are great. Unfortunately the new 1x8 got sent back to the drawing board for some allignment issues from what I understand. ps. Like the new rifle, congrats! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Shane45 807 Posted September 2, 2010 Thanks for the kind words Jimmy As soon as the BBT comes in and drops off a mag, Ill be out there! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bbk 188 Posted September 2, 2010 Shane, is that an LMT SOPMOD stock on your MWS? And if so, who pinned it? I've yearned for one, and am considering it for a possible lower build. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Shane45 807 Posted September 2, 2010 Yes it is. Its a bit of a pain to pin and requires you to uglify a side with a hole through the compartment area to reach the track the lever runs in. Not sure if I like it yet. Feels good. Need to get some rounds down range to know for sure. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Cylinder Head 22 Posted September 2, 2010 Shane, is that an LMT SOPMOD stock on your MWS? And if so, who pinned it? I've yearned for one, and am considering it for a possible lower build. I pulled the black LMT Sopmod off my KAC in favor of the ACS. Even though the LMT is almost 50% more expensive, I really liked the utility of the ACS. If you're looking for one, I'll sell you mine. Paterson Gunsmithing pins stocks and you can't even tell they did it to the ACS. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
vjf915 456 Posted September 3, 2010 Well I certainly dont expect to win anything, but just make the contest bigger.... 3/16/2010 I purchased my first gun, a S&W MP15-22. I dont have pictures of it, but Chris (Lunker) has it now, and can attest that it used to be mine. On 8/22/2010 I acquired this 1943 matching numbers Mosin Nagant. I like it, and am very excited to take it out. Then on 8/31/2010 I picked up a Zastava PAP. Loved shooting it indoors, cant wait to take this baby to an outdoor range!! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Krdshrk 3,878 Posted September 9, 2010 1) Beretta PX4 Storm (Type F - 9mm) 2) Mossberg 500 - 18.5" & 24" 3) Ruger 10/22 .22LR Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Pew Pew Plates 358 Posted September 9, 2010 Just, turned 21 in jan, handgun spree! S&W K38, model 14-3 Glock 19 and smiley face (now has nightsights too) + TT-33 (transfered from my dad whom held it till I turned 21) + Browning Cynergy Total thus far... + S&W 1911 pro .45acp Total now is +5 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ray Ray 3,566 Posted September 16, 2010 Damn, it's been a tough first-half for me. 1. Beretta 92F I'm waiting for a Taurus Public Defender Um, I figured I'd update this. 1. Beretta 92F (which I sold) 2. Glock 19 Gen 3 3. Glock 19 Gen 1 4. Mosin M44 still waiting for that damn public defender two tone! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
autoxnyc 4 Posted September 16, 2010 Recently acquired following: Novak Hi Power 9mm Chinese Chiang Kai-shiek Mauser K98/VZ24 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
junkmanted 54 Posted September 18, 2010 Is there a A A for gun buying Time to update and I'm done no more buying Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites