Parker 213 Posted January 19, 2011 Well... Parker, again it matters who is doing the doing. Olympic tried their hand at cast recievers in AR's and frankly they sucked big time! But in Rugers case its not just that they do good casting. Their guns are designed to be cast. Bill Ruger and how he's built his products are definitely a success story. Was unaware of Olympic. I'm just not well-versed in the AR arena. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Cylinder Head 22 Posted January 19, 2011 Cylinder Head, have you ever seen or even heard of a broken SA reciever? I havent and Ive looked! Dont discount cast. There are advantages to each process. It really depends who is doing the doing Id probably rather have a cast reciever from SA than a forged reciever from Norinco. Id rather have a forged LRB than a forged Norinco. Caspian 1911 frames are cast and I have FULL faith in them and would take a cast Caspian 1911 frame over a forged SA 1911 frame! The whole cast/forged/billet debate is a deep one. Been in several discussion with several metalurical experts. I came away with a headache and retained this answer. As Wild Bill Caldwell would say, Forged vs Cast vs Billet, it depends! I have personally not heard about a broken SA receiver, ever. Nor did I ever have any issues with my M1A SOCOM II, however I did swap the bolt and guide rod for USGI spec forged parts. What I have heard is that just about every Springfield M1A that shows up at a 3-5 day course ends up having some sort of issue from the instructors I've talked to. They just don't like to be truly abused. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Shane45 807 Posted January 19, 2011 I have heard the very same thing but I have never heard it due to the reciever, just crappy internals. As I understand it they should all be swapped out for USGI. There are also some gas system mods that can be done to help reliability. Dont get me wrong I would love a LRB, but I wouldnt be concearned of a reciever failure if I had a SA. Shane Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Cylinder Head 22 Posted January 19, 2011 I have heard the very same thing but I have never heard it due to the reciever, just crappy internals. As I understand it they should all be swapped out for USGI. There are also some gas system mods that can be done to help reliability. Dont get me wrong I would love a LRB, but I wouldnt be concearned of a reciever failure if I had a SA. Shane Nowadays you're just better off with a KAC, a LaRue OBR, an LMT MWS, or a SCAR-17. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Krdshrk 3,878 Posted January 19, 2011 Superbee is selling his PTR-91 in .308 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Shane45 807 Posted January 19, 2011 Cylinder Head, I AGREE My MWS Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
coley 1 Posted May 5, 2011 Hey all.... It's been a couple months, but I finally saved enough cash to get myself a rifle. It always seems to be something emptying out my "rifle" money. Anyway, I ordered a PTR-91C from Walt at Hackettstown G & A. He should have it by Tuesday at the latest. Gotta order me some ammo..... :-) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Avi 12 Posted May 9, 2011 Hey all.... It's been a couple months, but I finally saved enough cash to get myself a rifle. It always seems to be something emptying out my "rifle" money. Anyway, I ordered a PTR-91C from Walt at Hackettstown G & A. He should have it by Tuesday at the latest. Gotta order me some ammo..... :-) i got a case from here its the best deal i could find http://www.aimsurplus.com/product.aspx?item=AP308FMJ145&name=Prvi+Partizan+.308+FMJ+145grn+20rd+Box&groupid=164 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Shane45 807 Posted May 9, 2011 Avi, did you run any of it yet? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Avi 12 Posted May 9, 2011 Avi, did you run any of it yet? I did and it is sweeeeet! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Shane45 807 Posted May 9, 2011 Nice! Hopefuly I can press together some funds!!!! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dan 177 Posted May 9, 2011 I did and it is sweeeeet! Thanks for the find. I just ordered a case. Great price, and re-loadable brass. The brass alone is worth around $400 if you were to purchase some new Winchester brass. Will use in my m1a, then reload for my BA. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Shane45 807 Posted May 9, 2011 I have no experience reloading Privi but I have read that its not very good to reload. Just a heads up. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
matt6669 71 Posted May 9, 2011 just to let you know wideners is about 5 dollars cheaper per 200 rounds as a heads up on this ammo. This is good ammo, shoots decently and the brass is annealed brass and looks to be good quality I'll let you know how it is when I start reloading it Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dan 177 Posted May 9, 2011 I have no experience reloading Privi but I have read that its not very good to reload. Just a heads up. I looked into it beforehand, and the consensus is that it is not best for chasing one hole or benchrest. I'm fine with this as I have my Lapua and Winchester brass for that. My purpose for this is to use in the m1a, and reload for it as well. I don't want to use my good brass with the m1a as it does chew it up a little, and I won't be angry if i loose a few or ppl step on a few here and there. just to let you know wideners is about 5 dollars cheaper per 200 rounds as a heads up on this ammo. This is good ammo, shoots decently and the brass is annealed brass and looks to be good quality I'll let you know how it is when I start reloading it Non-bulk discount: Aim - $95 for 200 Widners - $94 for 200 Bulk discounts: Aim - $447.50 for 1,000 Widners - $460 for 1,000 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
coley 1 Posted May 9, 2011 i got a case from here its the best deal i could find http://www.aimsurplus.com/product.aspx?item=AP308FMJ145&name=Prvi+Partizan+.308+FMJ+145grn+20rd+Box&groupid=164 Cool thanks. That's a good price. I ordered a couple different brands at 100 rounds each.... Including Prvi.... just to see what runs good from Ammunition To Go. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
matt6669 71 Posted May 9, 2011 I looked into it beforehand, and the consensus is that it is not best for chasing one hole or benchrest. I'm fine with this as I have my Lapua and Winchester brass for that. My purpose for this is to use in the m1a, and reload for it as well. I don't want to use my good brass with the m1a as it does chew it up a little, and I won't be angry if i loose a few or ppl step on a few here and there. Non-bulk discount: Aim - $95 for 200 Widners - $94 for 200 Bulk discounts: Aim - $447.50 for 1,000 Widners - $460 for 1,000 If your going to reload what is the point of buying a 1000 rounds. 400 rounds of brass will last you quite some time. But hey thats just me Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
axeman_g 128 Posted May 9, 2011 Full review???? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dan 177 Posted May 9, 2011 If your going to reload what is the point of buying a 1000 rounds. 400 rounds of brass will last you quite some time. But hey thats just me Starting off with components, assuming I'm going to reload the 400 brass up to 1000 rounds. Sure it will be a higher quality than the initial components Privi uses, but as I said I'm not splitting hairs with this stuff: 400 Winchester brass - $160 1000 Winchester 147gr FMJBT - $220 1000 CCI #200 primers - $30 6lbs of Varget powder - $109 Total $519 Privi 1000 rounds shipped is $476 So here I'm getting 1000 rounds ready to go bang out of the box, so the first time around I save a lot of time, and I have 1000 re-loadable brass shells to use for however long I need them. Not to mention things only seem to get more expensive over time, so I'm not upset if I sit on 500 rounds of once fired .308 Privi brass until I need it. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Avi 12 Posted May 9, 2011 I too am thinking to start reloading 308. Can someone tell me the cost per round or 1000 rd assuming I'm not paying for brass and not using match bullets just pumping out your avarage 308 round thanks much Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dan 177 Posted May 9, 2011 I too am thinking to start reloading 308. Can someone tell me the cost per round or 1000 rd assuming I'm not paying for brass and not using match bullets just pumping out your avarage 308 round thanks much Using my calculations above (and perhaps you can find cheaper sources..): Winchester .308 brass is $20 per 50, about 40 cents per shell Winchester .308 147gr FMJBT is about 22 cents per bullet CCI #200 primer is 3 cents 42 gr of Varget is about 3.5 cents = $1.27 per round new After reloading, you can subtract the initial shell cost of .40, making a reload cost .87 cents. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Pew Pew Plates 358 Posted May 9, 2011 I too am thinking to start reloading 308. Can someone tell me the cost per round or 1000 rd assuming I'm not paying for brass and not using match bullets just pumping out your avarage 308 round thanks much 25-30 cents a round using bulk primers/powder (buying 8lbs powder/ 5k primer bricks) and surplus pulled bullets http://www.hi-techammo.com/hitech.zkb?root&GENMENU601D&object-menu6 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites