Krdshrk 3,878 Posted July 11, 2011 Just putting this up there for the new guys who want to come to the next IDPA match. Please note - this is a LOW LIGHT/NO LIGHT match so bring your flashlights. Handheld lights only Date: Sunday, July 17th, 2011 Time: Registration: 10:45 a.m. New shooters briefing: 11:00 a.m. Hammer Down: 11:30 a.m. Cost: $10.00 (Lunch included) For questions contact: Tom Richards - Chairman/Match Director cell: 732-522-4076 [email protected] Roster: 1. Krdshrk 2. vjf915 3. Pizza Bob 4. jonathan19163703 5. Zell959 6. MrP 7. 82ndAbnRVN Maybes: 1. hd2000fxdl (maybe) 2. Mr Shoot It All 3. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mr.Shoot_It_All 13 Posted July 11, 2011 Maybe Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The_Matrix 105 Posted July 11, 2011 Where does it take place? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Krdshrk 3,878 Posted July 11, 2011 Somerset County Fish & Game 445 Milltown Road Bridgewater, NJ 08807 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mr.Shoot_It_All 13 Posted July 11, 2011 Projected round count ? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jonny.montana 48 Posted July 11, 2011 I would say same as today... probably less... remember is only 4 stages. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mr.Shoot_It_All 13 Posted July 11, 2011 Yeah true Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jon 264 Posted July 11, 2011 Very sad that I won't be able to make this... Would love to shoot a low-light match. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ray Ray 3,566 Posted July 11, 2011 no weapons mounted lights? why? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
lunker 274 Posted July 11, 2011 I was thinking they meant no body mounted lights, like a head lamp. Would a rail mounted light be OK? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Smokin .50 1,907 Posted July 11, 2011 no weapons mounted lights? why? Hey Ray, As to your question, in a nutshell: IDPA isn't "Tactical" ala USPSA, rather it's DEFENSIVE, designed around what you'd have under your jacket concealed. Also IDPA's thinking is that you can take an out-of-the-box hand gun and use it to play the game, without anything special required, such as flashlight holders built into gun frames. Laser grips aren't allowed for this purpose as well, I believe. Sounds like a fun time! Tom runs a nice Match and is a great guy. Dave Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jonny.montana 48 Posted July 11, 2011 No they said that no mounted lights because of safety issues. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Shocker 151 Posted July 11, 2011 Perhaps. I might have to make this my first event... EDIT: Nope, never mind Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ronhonda 86 Posted July 11, 2011 Hey Ray, As to your question, in a nutshell: IDPA isn't "Tactical" ala USPSA, rather it's DEFENSIVE, designed around what you'd have under your jacket concealed. Also IDPA's thinking is that you can take an out-of-the-box hand gun and use it to play the game, without anything special required, such as flashlight holders built into gun frames. Laser grips aren't allowed for this purpose as well, I believe. Sounds like a fun time! Tom runs a nice Match and is a great guy. Dave USPSA is not tactical. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Krdshrk 3,878 Posted July 11, 2011 I asked - I wanted my light to be gun-mounted as well, however, for safety reasons, there's no weapon mounted lights. Handheld only. You shouldn't need more than 150 rounds. I usually get by with 100. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Babaganoosh 192 Posted July 11, 2011 USPSA is not tactical. It's "practical"! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Pew Pew Plates 358 Posted July 11, 2011 Safety reasons? I thought its never allowed? From the rule book. "The following modifications are NOT ALLOWED IN ANY DIVISION unless otherwise specifically mentioned. F. Lights mounted on guns." Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Pizza Bob 1,488 Posted July 11, 2011 Due to range constraints, SCFGPA IDPA is limiting the number of participants to 32 (two 16 person squads). If you want a spot, you have to e-mail Tom to have him add you to the roster. vjf915 and myself are in. Adios, Pizza Bob Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Zell959 40 Posted July 11, 2011 Safety reasons? I thought its never allowed? It was also my understanding that weapon mounted lights were never allowed. The sense I get from the overall tone of the narrative present in the IDPA rulebook is that they don't want to allow equipment such as gun mounted lights & lasers, even if those items have defensive value, because their concern is that the items will present an advantage and it will become something that EVERYONE has to use if they want to be competitve. That said, I tend to suspect IDPA rule makers overestimate their ability to prevent people from 'gaming' their way through a shooting stage. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ronhonda 86 Posted July 11, 2011 It was also my understanding that weapon mounted lights were never allowed. The sense I get from the overall tone of the narrative present in the IDPA rulebook is that they don't want to allow equipment such as gun mounted lights & lasers, even if those items have defensive value, because their concern is that the items will present an advantage and it will become something that EVERYONE has to use if they want to be competitve. That said, I tend to suspect IDPA rule makers overestimate their ability to prevent people from 'gaming' their way through a shooting stage. Everyone games in one form or another. In IDPA it is "harder" to do because there is generally one way to shoot the stage. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Smokin .50 1,907 Posted July 11, 2011 USPSA is not tactical. Maybe not in the exact sense of the word. You're right. I was on my first cup of coffee. But let's face it, it's not exactly "practical" to walk around with a limcat holstered .38 Super racegun under your jacket. So how practical is "practical"? Don't get me wrong, as I play both games. Lots of "tactical-styled" stuff in USPSA from manufacturers making it to just within USPSA specs, so it doesn't break the rules, like the limcat. Some, but not so much in IDPA, as the game is designed with minimal equipment and a lower round count. Both games are fun, and some equipment can be used to play both. I just need to remember which one I'm playing as I reload, LOL! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
tanghan 1 Posted July 11, 2011 I'm new to this, so please bear with me. I just wonder what kind of flash light you guys would need to be effective in the normal shooting distance in this sport? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Krdshrk 3,878 Posted July 11, 2011 It doesn't have to be anything serious - just something with enough light for you to see your target. Also - I can see 1 handed operation of the flashlight being a must. No mini maglights that you have to twist to turn on. I will be using my Streamlight TLR-1s. It's really a gun mounted light but I have been able to use it as a handheld without issues. I'll have my spare TLR-1 with me as well. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
tanghan 1 Posted July 11, 2011 Got it. Thanks! It doesn't have to be anything serious - just something with enough light for you to see your target. Also - I can see 1 handed operation of the flashlight being a must. No mini maglights that you have to twist to turn on. I will be using my Streamlight TLR-1s. It's really a gun mounted light but I have been able to use it as a handheld without issues. I'll have my spare TLR-1 with me as well. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
vjf915 456 Posted July 12, 2011 Pizza Bob and I will both be there. I'm really looking forward to the no/low light match. I'll be using my Surefire 6PX Tactical. It's the flashlight that I have on me at night, so I figured it's the best one to use for this. As for the "gamer" comments.....these are meant to be games. I don't participate in these matches because it will help me in a firefight.....although it WILL teach me how to handle my weapon better. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mr.Shoot_It_All 13 Posted July 12, 2011 A great surefire can be had for 50-60 I use one 5 nights a week for work 200 lumens should do the trick Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ray Ray 3,566 Posted July 13, 2011 A great surefire can be had for 50-60 I use one 5 nights a week for work 200 lumens should do the trick What kinda work is that Sammie? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
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