Geno 28 Posted October 15, 2011 Just got home from the shop. It's S&W 686 plus. Can't wait to try it. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Pizza Bob 1,488 Posted October 15, 2011 Great first choice. Enjoy. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
M4BGRINGO 139 Posted October 15, 2011 Welcome to the addiction Geno. I am up to 7 now myself....... Is your cylinder cut for moon clips? That is something I want to do with one of my 686's for competition use. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Geno 28 Posted October 15, 2011 Welcome to the addiction Geno. I am up to 7 now myself....... Is your cylinder cut for moon clips? That is something I want to do with one of my 686's for competition use. I don't even know what it is. I am newbeeeeee. Just got it today NIB from the shop. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Maksim 1,504 Posted October 15, 2011 great first revo! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Wolfy 51 Posted October 15, 2011 Very versatile. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Pizza Bob 1,488 Posted October 15, 2011 I don't even know what it is. I am newbeeeeee. Just got it today NIB from the shop. Revolver rounds are usually rimmed cartridges (.38 Spl / .357 Mag / .44 Spl / .45 Colt). The gun headspaces on the rim of the case and the extractor fits under the rim to kick the empties out of the cylinder. Some revolvers are chambered for semi-auto pistol rounds (9mm / 10mm / .45 ACP) which are rimless cartridges. Without the rim, there is nothing for the extractor to push against to extract the empties. A full-moon clip is a circular piece of metal with cutouts that fit in the extractor grooves of the rimless cases. (Picture worth a thousand words)... Are you still with me? Through the use of full-moon clips you can load all six rounds at one time. The clip stays with the cartridges in the gun - there is nothing to discard, the way there is with a speedloader (a device for loading 6 rimmed revolver cartridges at a time. It holds them in the correct pattern to insert into the cylinder partially, at which time some sort of release is activated to allow gravity to complete the loading process. So a speedloader requires three motions - insert, release, discard. A moon-clip only one - insert). In competition there was a perceived advantage of using moon-clips vs. speedloaders (as outlined above), so some ingenious person came up with a way to machine the rear of the cylinder, on a revolver chambered for a rimmed cartridge, to accept moon-clips. The beauty of this is that you can still shoot the gun, and get reliable ignition, without the moon-clips should you want to. IMHO, I think that before it becomes worthwhile to undertake that modification, you should be awfully good with that wheelgun, because we're talking about fractions of seconds saved by using moon-clips as opposed to speedloaders. Speedeloaders are also a lot less expensive (Midway has Safariland speedloaders on sale this month). One final historical footnote - moon-clips are a relatively new device. The original clips were called half-moon clips and were developed early in the 20th century for use in military 1917 revolvers chambered in .45 ACP. Revolvers were issued because they couldn't produce the relatively new 1911 handgun fast enough, and half-moon clips allowed the use of .45 ACP in a revolver, so there was commonality of ammo. While full-moon clips hold the case on its inside circumference, half-moons fit in the outer circumference - again, a picture... That's your lesson for today. Aren't you glad you asked?? Adios, Pizza Bob 2 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NicePants 58 Posted October 15, 2011 Excellent choice! I don't own one, but I did have the pleasure of firing one. Felt and shot like a dream. I think maybe I'll be snatching one up with my next PPPs. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
hd2000fxdl 422 Posted October 16, 2011 Fantastic, very nice wheel gun, congratulations. Harry Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
gunnarsport 13 Posted October 16, 2011 Great classic Smith revolver! Enjoy shooting, and be CAREFUL! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Geno 28 Posted October 16, 2011 Revolver rounds are usually rimmed cartridges (.38 Spl / .357 Mag / .44 Spl / .45 Colt). The gun headspaces on the rim of the case and the extractor fits under the rim to kick the empties out of the cylinder. Some revolvers are chambered for semi-auto pistol rounds (9mm / 10mm / .45 ACP) which are rimless cartridges. Without the rim, there is nothing for the extractor to push against to extract the empties. A full-moon clip is a circular piece of metal with cutouts that fit in the extractor grooves of the rimless cases. (Picture worth a thousand words)... Are you still with me? Through the use of full-moon clips you can load all six rounds at one time. The clip stays with the cartridges in the gun - there is nothing to discard, the way there is with a speedloader (a device for loading 6 rimmed revolver cartridges at a time. It holds them in the correct pattern to insert into the cylinder partially, at which time some sort of release is activated to allow gravity to complete the loading process. So a speedloader requires three motions - insert, release, discard. A moon-clip only one - insert). In competition there was a perceived advantage of using moon-clips vs. speedloaders (as outlined above), so some ingenious person came up with a way to machine the rear of the cylinder, on a revolver chambered for a rimmed cartridge, to accept moon-clips. The beauty of this is that you can still shoot the gun, and get reliable ignition, without the moon-clips should you want to. IMHO, I think that before it becomes worthwhile to undertake that modification, you should be awfully good with that wheelgun, because we're talking about fractions of seconds saved by using moon-clips as opposed to speedloaders. Speedeloaders are also a lot less expensive (Midway has Safariland speedloaders on sale this month). One final historical footnote - moon-clips are a relatively new device. The original clips were called half-moon clips and were developed early in the 20th century for use in military 1917 revolvers chambered in .45 ACP. Revolvers were issued because they couldn't produce the relatively new 1911 handgun fast enough, and half-moon clips allowed the use of .45 ACP in a revolver, so there was commonality of ammo. While full-moon clips hold the case on its inside circumference, half-moons fit in the outer circumference - again, a picture... That's your lesson for today. Aren't you glad you asked?? Adios, Pizza Bob Bob! I want to hang out with you!!!! So much to learn. This info is definitely way over my head. I just want to shoot this gun for fun. Thanks for the lesson. Geno. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Col. Mortimer 11 Posted October 16, 2011 Geno: You are off to a good start. You cannot go wrong with a good quality pistol like a 686. Now let's get you an automatic pistol. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Wolfy 51 Posted October 16, 2011 If you could only own one gun this would be it. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Geno 28 Posted October 16, 2011 Geno: You are off to a good start. You cannot go wrong with a good quality pistol like a 686. Now let's get you an automatic pistol. This is my first revolver, but not the first gun. My first i got last year and it's Beretta Px4 9mm. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CageFighter 236 Posted October 16, 2011 Nice!! mine was an LCR .357 (RayRay made me do it) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sixtytwo327 14 Posted October 17, 2011 Just picked up the same exact 686 P - my first revolver as well. Took it to the range and let me just say, I scrapped my plans for the remaining two permits and I'm now looking into some wheel guns. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Pizza Bob 1,488 Posted October 17, 2011 Welcome to the wonderful world of wheelies! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
diamondd817 828 Posted October 21, 2011 Just got home from the shop. It's S&W 686 plus. Can't wait to try it. Me Too!!!! But I just realized mine came with a different style grip than yours. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Pizza Bob 1,488 Posted October 21, 2011 Me Too!!!! But I just realized mine came with a different style grip than yours. His are Hogues. I think yours are Uncle Mikes. Both were made for S&W, thus the logo. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
HKHockey 5 Posted October 31, 2011 Absolutely gorgeous revolver! Hopefully will collect some nice S&Ws or Colts in the near future Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bry@n 195 Posted October 31, 2011 congrats on the whell gun. very nice. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ronald Silver 2 Posted January 9, 2012 for those who love 686s, check out "The American" 686 on the auction sites. satin finish, american flag, just very pretty Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JimmyAGR 54 Posted January 14, 2012 Revolver rounds are usually rimmed cartridges (.38 Spl / .357 Mag / .44 Spl / .45 Colt). The gun headspaces on the rim of the case and the extractor fits under the rim to kick the empties out of the cylinder. Some revolvers are chambered for semi-auto pistol rounds (9mm / 10mm / .45 ACP) which are rimless cartridges. Without the rim, there is nothing for the extractor to push against to extract the empties. A full-moon clip is a circular piece of metal with cutouts that fit in the extractor grooves of the rimless cases. (Picture worth a thousand words)... Are you still with me? Through the use of full-moon clips you can load all six rounds at one time. The clip stays with the cartridges in the gun - there is nothing to discard, the way there is with a speedloader (a device for loading 6 rimmed revolver cartridges at a time. It holds them in the correct pattern to insert into the cylinder partially, at which time some sort of release is activated to allow gravity to complete the loading process. So a speedloader requires three motions - insert, release, discard. A moon-clip only one - insert). In competition there was a perceived advantage of using moon-clips vs. speedloaders (as outlined above), so some ingenious person came up with a way to machine the rear of the cylinder, on a revolver chambered for a rimmed cartridge, to accept moon-clips. The beauty of this is that you can still shoot the gun, and get reliable ignition, without the moon-clips should you want to. IMHO, I think that before it becomes worthwhile to undertake that modification, you should be awfully good with that wheelgun, because we're talking about fractions of seconds saved by using moon-clips as opposed to speedloaders. Speedeloaders are also a lot less expensive (Midway has Safariland speedloaders on sale this month). One final historical footnote - moon-clips are a relatively new device. The original clips were called half-moon clips and were developed early in the 20th century for use in military 1917 revolvers chambered in .45 ACP. Revolvers were issued because they couldn't produce the relatively new 1911 handgun fast enough, and half-moon clips allowed the use of .45 ACP in a revolver, so there was commonality of ammo. While full-moon clips hold the case on its inside circumference, half-moons fit in the outer circumference - again, a picture... That's your lesson for today. Aren't you glad you asked?? Adios, Pizza Bob Bob you never fail to enlighten me with your posts. You are truely a credit tothis forum, thank you. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ian S 22 Posted January 14, 2012 Holy necroposting! Bob, those pictures are beautiful. If I didn't learn anything from the post, which I did, I'd be satisfied with the full moon photo. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Shug 4 Posted January 15, 2012 Congrats. I am looking at the same to be my first revolver. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ronald Silver 2 Posted January 17, 2012 Congrats. I am looking at the same to be my first revolver. Wonder which is more popular, 3, 4 or 6 inch barrel. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Pizza Bob 1,488 Posted January 17, 2012 Wonder which is more popular, 3, 4 or 6 inch barrel. Depends on what you're going to do with it. Range only, probably the six inch. Competition or HD 4". HD or SD 3". 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
smoothie 0 Posted January 17, 2012 I use mine only at the range and have the 6 inch barrel. Very accurate Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NicePants 58 Posted January 17, 2012 Wonder which is more popular, 3, 4 or 6 inch barrel. I'd say the 4 inch is probably the best seller followed by the 6 inch. The 4 inch is very versatile because it doesn't have the extra bit of weight of the 6 inch but it still has a lot of barrel for accuracy and taming recoil, which is a bit worse on the 3 inch. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NJdiverTony 27 Posted January 17, 2012 Congrats! Very nice revolver! I'm seriously thinking of picking up one of these when my next set of permits are ready in the next month or two... It's going to be either the 686 Plus or the 686 SSR... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites